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True, but shouldnt that be on the wife or kids to call the police and now you have a completely different issue to charge him with. To charge him with a crime that for the most part harms no one because he might commit a more serious crime just seems wrong to me.

Let me ask you something. Your college aged son or daughter goes to a party and has too much to drink. At first, he/she thinks she can make it just 2 miles home. Down at the end of the block she says this is stupid. Ill pull off right here in front of this house and sleep it off till tomorrow morning. Now the car is off and your kid is asleep. Do you think it is OK for a police officer to knock on your childs window a hour later and then give your child a DUI? If so, the lesson learned could be “dont take a chance. Drime home drunk.and get there as soon as possible”

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I totally think that is a fair question and, of course I’d want my kid to be safe and stay out of trouble. I can even say with certainty that my white kid has a far better chance in your scenario than any black kids does. but some lessons have to be learned the hard way.

If you’ll indulge me further on my scenario:

What if the cops had let him go AND he went and beat his wife again? Would you be okay if the end played out the exact same way? Would the cops have any liability to the freshly beaten wife?

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You may be right, but I just heard kilmeade on the radio saying he lived a block from there. Either way, I wont convince you and you are not going to convince me .

Do you realize the charges they have this young officer under? It is crazy to put a young officer in that position. Your military. Think Sergeant of the Guard duties. Would you want a young officer to shoot your child in the back over that?

I am not saying Brooks is an angel, and though I dont like the police, I sure dont think the officer is the devil. I am just saddened by the whole incident and think there has to be a better way to handle it.

Perhaps the better way would be the officer calling an uber and having Brooks delivered home, and then dealing with the rest of the drama the next day when everyone is clear headed.

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The camera battery life and storage is easily solvable right now.

Those magnetic charging plugs phones can take? Make it tied to the cruisers ignition. It has to be hooked up and charging for the cruiser to move, and since it’s magnetic it will come unhooked, turning the camera on, even if the officer has to bail in a hurry.

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No. I would not be OK with him going home and beating his wife.

Perhaps a simple call to his wife and asking if it would be ok with them sending him home to her in an uber or would she rather him to spend the night in jail and which did she prefer?

No. The police should have no culpability in them releasing him and he beats her. They have no way of knowing what he might do. If you support them being liable, where do draw the line and how do you define it? Perhaps they arrest and charge him. The next day he goes home with a hang over and his wife learns of everything and she gets in a heated argument with him because there goes a 1000 dollar hit to their budget for court costs and fines. This now starts a fight over money and he beats her or kills her. Should the police/courts be culpable in that scenario?

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sorry i asked my questions wrong

I, in no way, meant to imply you would be okay with his wife being beaten.

What i meant to ask was. If he did go home and commit another crime and then the whole episode that ended with his death occurred in the exact way it did at Wendy’s, would you feel differently about how the cops acted?

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Watch the video, don’t listen to pundits.

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No. I wouldnt. Not for this. The police didnt have enough other information to go on had it stopped before they attempted to put him in cuffs. If you watch the video, the part where he was engaging with the officers before they attempted to arrest him he appeared totally normal.

Now I will tell you of an instance I was involved in while I was in the military that I took the opposite stance.

Bn Cdrs driver is a 28yo E4.

A 19yo kid in the Motor Pool uses said Drivers computer and finds all kinds of Child Pornography on it. 19yo tells his Plt Sgt. Plt Sgt tells me 19yo wants to speak with me because he was disgusted by what he saw on Drivers computer. 19yo enters my office and tells me he had permission to use this guys computer and what he found on it. I am an Avn guy. A bit out of my league here. So I call the Military Police Investigators(MPIs) and ask how to proceed. They tell me to ask the 19yo if he wants to make a sworn complaint to them, or if he isnt really sure, would he rather drop it. 19yo tells me he is willing to make a complaint. So 19yo goes to their office and writes a sworn statement on what he observed.

The MPIs Take his statement to a military judge and get a warrant. They call me en route to our camp and tell me they have a warrant and to post a guard on the door to the barracks room where the computer is. I immediately call the Bn Cdr and CSM and tell them what is transpiring. The MPIs arrive on scene with a warrant and conduct a thorough search of the room confiscating all electronic computer related stuff and video tapes found in the room.

The CSM was livid. He asked me what I did before contacting the MPIs and if I even looked at the files to be sure the 19yo was telling the truth and not over reacting. I told him “I am not Inspector Clouseau I fix air planes. Your driver maybe the greatest guy in the world, but he is 28 years old. If I had done nothing with this info, and found out later he was molesting kids, I couldnt live with that.” This same CSM had 4 daughters and no sons. So I then asked him if he would like this driver to babysit for him sometime. He just walked away.

It took about 6 months for the forensics to come back, and the driver admitted to the mpi that he had infact downloaded the files because he wanted to see what the allure was. They didnt find anything suggesting that he personally molested any children, or that he attempted to. There were over 250 confirmed images of child pornography with children under 12 years of age. There was another 60 some “Attempts”. An “Attempt” is in the UCMJ where a person attempts to do something, but may not succeed. The fact that he attempted to commit the offence can be charged. So the file name might be “Man does 10yo” but when the pediatricians looked at the file, they figured the girl to be a small 18yo. The pediatricians cant confirm the offence, but to the UCM, by looking at the file name he still attempted to commit the offence and it can be charged. Anyways, he copped a plea and did 4 years.

In this instance, the info I had at the time is to allow a kid to make a sworn statement to the MPIs and let the chips fall where they may, or tell the 19yo I would deal with it. I felt completely out of my league attempting to deal with something of such magnitude. To this day, I am still glad I called the MPIs because had nothing happened who knows if he would have then gotten even further involved and where it all would have ended.

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And my sister is dead because your worthless drunk started his car and killed her. I guess worthless killers are more important to some than the life of a sister, daughter, mother and grandmother.

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I was not going to reply on this because I do believe you were in a tough spot and did the right thing. I’m sure some would tell you it was the only thing to do but your ass was on the line, in a way.

The reason I reply is because I feel like the cop that did the shooting was in a very similar spot as you. Only he had a few seconds to make a decision and he could have lost his life in the process.

God bless the men and women that put on that uniform and try to be good. I could never do it

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Why let potential killers out on the road?
According to you it’s he’s just a harmless drunk out to have a good time. I say he was a potential killer.
I say the police were doing their job and preventing a murder.
We know he was driving drunk because he drove himself to Wendy’s.
Lets say the cops left him there sleeping. What happens when he wakes up and drives away running over some 10 year old white kid. Would you be calling for him to be hung from the highest tree like you are for these two cops.
My guess is there would have been silence.

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Perhaps you missed this post…

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If my son or daughters were driving drunk or even passed out in their car I would have called the cops and had them arrested.
I’m a good mother who does not cover for her kids and lets them suffer the consequences of their actions.
No one learns if everyone covers up for their stupidity.
My children would learn don’t take chances that are going to cost your big time.
Want to get drunk leave your car home and you won’t wake up in jail. Or worse yet sitting by the side of the road looking at the body of the person you just killed.

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Wow…That is pretty harsh for a mom. Im not sure there are a whole lot of mothers that would do that. I certainly wouldnt as a father, I would just be glad they were safe. I certainly wouldnt try to instigate problems.

Youve never kept any mistakes that your husband or children made private? I would say a lot can be learned by keeping a confidence…Like trust for example. I would want my daughter to be able to come to me if there was a crisis she was going through. Not hide it because she thought I might tell everyone.

I hope those lessons are learned too. But I also now a lot of people get caught up in things that they never intended to happen. I keep thinking, there, but for the grace of God, go I.

With this thing in Atlanta, it really is tragic for both sides. I sure wouldnt want my son or daughter to have to go through what this young officer is going through. The DA is throwing this kid to the wolves. He has said the death penalty is on the table. If he gets found not guilty, and he probably will, he will have to live in hiding after all the riots. And I really dont think this young officer was evil. I think the city put him in a position he wasnt trained for. His procedures told him to fire on brooks, and the same people that called for those procedures are trying to crucify him for following the same procedures they put in place.

As far as Rashard Brooks, even if my daughter drove drunk, I still love her and wouldnt want her shot and killed over it. I have been given mercy for things I have done in my life and would like to extend it to others if it is at all possible. Relationships are built over that mercy. And those relationships are what bring me more joy than anything else.

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Where are you getting this from? Perhaps you can trust the police. I dont. We can probably all agree that kids shouldnt take guns to school. But if a 6yo kid bites a pop tart into the shape of a gun, should he be charged with taking a gun to school? This is the kind of stuff that actually happens.

In brooks case, the police didnt catch him on the public roads. Hopefully he would have learned from this and never done it again. Had they cought him on public roads, then throw the book at him. But they didnt. They saw him on private property and that is all they can attest to in a court of law. Let the guy walk home if that is what he wants to do and impound his car. At least four kids would have their dad tonight. As it turned out they dont, and probably the officers parents wont have their son around for to much longer either.

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As I stated earlier, I am sorry for the pain you and your family endured at the loss of your sister.

I try not to think of anyone as “worthless”. As far as who’s life is worth more, I’m glad I am not in the position to have to make that decision.

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All you would do is teach your child to be is a dishonest liar. And they would continue to be dishonest liars in adulthood.
Why do you think a lot of drunks drink? Hint it’s all those shameful secrets they are hiding.
I have no secrets. So I don’t live my life in shame,
My children have no reason to hide their wrongs because they know they could tell me anything and I would still love them. I would not cover up for them but I would walk with them as they sat things right.
Trust in not covering up for someone. Trust is knowing you can go to someone and tell them your wrong and know that person will be by your side as you set things right.
My children trust me because they know I will always tell them the truth. The truth may not always be easy but it sure keeps your soul from rotting.
Children are ours to guide into adulthood.
My children learned that the truth will not always be easy. But if your a truthful, honest person who is willing to accept your punishment at least you will never have to hide your face in shame.

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Links?

I looked the only case I found was from 2011 and the kid that was arrested wasn’t arrested just for Jaywalking.

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At least 90% of the narrative is based on lies.

I watched half a dozen or more black democrats yesterday telling us how tragic it is that they have to have, “The Talk” with their kids about interacting with LEO’s.

Newsflash, parents of all races have that talk with their kids and those who don’t are guilty of extreme negligence endangering their kid’s lives.

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Correction, there was a 911 call about Brooks being passed out in the drive through and a suspicion he might be dead or very ill.

That call is what brought the first officer to the scene.

Scroll up and watch the full video which I have posted. It’s quite demonstrative of the officers doing a very professional job.