Stop kneeling on ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ necks and ban chokeholds entirely, not just by PD rules but by law.

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I do, but my work is more fun than yours. :wink:

Not sure I follow, what’s your point?

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Okay, but what does that have to do with groups of young black men beating the living ■■■■ out of white people?

Most people don’t have any idea what Klein is. Not a ghetto in a big city.

Why are you picking on me?

So you really want to a cop’s penis (or vagina for female officers?) I know its hard to believe but we have to poop and pee just like you and despite how badly all you want us to have always on bodycams to see this I don’t think thats okay. Nor is it okay that you’ll get see naked male and female cops in the locker room.

But **** cops and any right to privacy we may have right? .

How about victims of severe violence. Including children. You really think you have a right to watch the interview of an 8 year old child who is telling about how daddy puts his thing in her? You believe that should be live streamed everywhere?

Or the domestic violence victim who is bloody and beaten by her husband. She is crying and snot is running out of her nose as she tells us about what he just did to her.

Or the rape victim we are talking to at the hospital and have to take pictures of their injuries, many of which will be in their private areas. Yeah lets re-victimize them by livestreaming what happened to them to the world.

Or the 4 year old who just watched his dad blow his head off and his terrified and alone and its up to me to comfort him for the next hour as I try to figure out how to console a child who is old enough to know he saw something horrific but not old enough to process it meaningfully in any way. Real call of mine by the way, the second worst call of my career. Topped only by the dead baby call where the parents thrust their 8 month old at me begging me to save him. I could tell by his coolness and visible lividity it was too late but I tried CPR anyway. As did the paramedics. As did the ER staff. Finally I sadly had to watch as they rocked their child saying goodbye. Baby had heart problems from the day he was born and had open heart surgery only a week earlier so this was just a horrible tragedy with no fault to anyone. Should these videos be livestreamed for you to get your jollies off of?

Now your already thinking up a reply of “thats not what I mean” but it is in fact because you are one of the always on folks and actually worse because you want live stream who hasn’t put two seconds of thought into what those things actually mean. Never mind the sheer impossibility of it.

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Probably wouldn’t show up…donut box would cover it up. :wink:

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No, I dont want all that. But I damn sure want your body cam on and filming everytime you get a call that has potential for community interaction.

I guess you really don’t care that this same drunk that you left sleeping in the car can start that car 10 minutes later and kill someone. Same as if he took a gun and shot them.
In my book drunks who drive and kill someone should be charged with first degree murder and locked away for life.
My lovely sister would be alive today except for some drunk that made the decision to drive.
Want to know what his sentence was. 5 years probation and loss of his license for a year.
Guess her live wasn’t worth much.

You could ask instead of guessing.

You said it, not me. :sunglasses:

Cops are confrontational with everyone.

When did this happen?

Had the police turned him loose and he later killed someone in a wreck the cops would be liable.

If they allowed him to walk to his sisters’ house and he stumbled into traffic and got run over the cops would be liable.

Rayshard was the architect of his own demise.

A week ago.

Allan

I would like to start my response by saying I am sorry for your sister and the pain you had to endure. I know how devastating losing a family member can be.

I care about drunk drivers…When they are actually driving on public roads. Do I think a police officer should be able to go on private property and arrest a guy for sleeping it off in his car? No. He attempted to do the right thing by sleeping in his car. You dont know if he will drive away in ten minutes anymore than I do. If you are that worried about it, park an officer across the street and watch him all night. But for an officer to wake him up and charge him with DUI is garbage. Should one be arrested for being angry and owning a gun? in ten minutes he might shoot the person he is angry at.

@Oldandtired, I challenge you to watch the video as it transpired at wendys in Atlanta. Then think how it might have gone down if the decisions made by the officers were not so blurry. Brooks was completely compliant up until they attempted to put cuffs on him. Everything he has seen in the media is about police putting black males in cuffs then beating them or killing them. I realize that is a false narrative, but that is all he hears and he is drunk/high so he isnt thinking straight.

Had I have been there, I like to think I would have said look, you are intoxicated and you cant drive. You can call some one to come pick you up or you can walk home. How about if you give me a number to a friend who can come up here and pick you up? Then a life would have been saved and four kids would still have their dad.

I have never been a police officer, but I spent 26yrs Active Duty as enlisted in the Army. I know a whole lot about how 25 year olds think. They want to do a good job and they want to impress. They dont have the temperament or ability to think through complex situations that 35/40 year olds do. Many young officers think they will impress their superiors by getting the most arrests for the biggest charges possible. Therefore often they will inflate the charges or escalate a situation rather than de-escalate it. That mentality needs to change.

good post

the perspective on all this is skewed. the problem isnt with the police

this raging war on cops is going to cause crime to skyrocket. they are going to give the finger to putting their asses on the line against dangerous scumballs like floyd.

crime will worsen, inner cities will get 1000 worse, and more “dashcams” isnt going to do squat. mark my words

“leftism (liberalism) always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent”

I think a start would be to get officers out of their cars and walking a beat in a neighborhood where they know the residents of that locale. To many in the neighborhood see the police as a threat or the enemy. If a child grows up seeing the same officer everyday like he sees the mail man, then that officer is no longer the enemy. He becomes the guy to go to if you are in trouble. Relationships is all it really takes, but sometimes creating those relationships is the hardest part.

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That works both ways. A cop who isn’t constantly dealing with complete strangers is less likely to treat them like a potential combatant/enemy.

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