CBO releases Build Back Better score without sunset gimmicks, Cost Estimate is $4.9 Trillion

DisturbedGuy · 2021-12-11T18:33:36.692Z

WuWei:

DisturbedGuy:

WuWei:

FloridaYankee:

WuWei:

FloridaYankee:

Who does?

The Taliban

Stop.

When you beat the champ, you are the champ.

The muj beat the Russians. The Taliban beat us.

They are the champs.

Disagree. We win the war…we failed at nation building.

Should I defer to your expertise?

Not claiming any expertise. The country was always going to be where it ended up. The initial war was to destroy the people that attacked our country. That is why I say we won.

WuWei · 2021-12-11T18:57:18.478Z

DisturbedGuy:

Not claiming any expertise. The country was always going to be where it ended up. The initial war was to destroy the people that attacked our country. That is why I say we won.

Can’t destroy a tactic, remember? The Taliban didn’t attack your country. AQ left A-stan in 2003.

TheRedComet · 2021-12-11T18:59:43.123Z

Guilds:

WuWei:

You need to source your quotes.

He certainly did his part, the hypocrite.

Edited, but I thought it was pretty obvious who it was.

What is the hypocrisy?

The US military went on a nuclear spending spree in the mid to late 50s during Ike’s presidency.

He was hoping that nuclear assets would be cheaper than conventional assets.

Turns out that the costs are pretty equal all things considered. And a military built around only nuclear assets leave you in a less flexible position during crisis moments.

Conventional forces are more flexible.

WuWei · 2021-12-11T19:06:08.520Z

Started Vietnam
Put LeMay in as Vice CoS, paving the way for him to become CoS Air Force…

TheRedComet · 2021-12-11T19:09:05.697Z

And then Lemay proceeded to make SAC the central focus of the Air Force and pumped a ridiculous amount of money into nuclear assets for SIOP plans that had anyone actually read, would have been appalled at the waste.

Hell there was some no name bridge in the southern USSR that was going to have four warheads dropped on it. “We have to be 100% sure.”

I would hope one 170kt warhead would do it’s job against a bridge.

DougBH · 2021-12-11T19:45:41.111Z

All of which demonstrates that while immigration may increase GDP, it reduces GDP per capita, which is to say lifestyle where it counts. And there might be some case that it doesn’t reduce the lifestyle of those already native to here, the same people who want open borders also want equity of results, which means redistribution. And that is “build back better”.

conan · 2021-12-11T20:02:08.541Z

Yes libs like authoritarian government

Liberty323 · 2021-12-11T20:40:02.727Z

I don’t want to ignore any threats, but you don’t think any of our defense spending is wasteful and could be trimmed, along with all other entitlement spending?

gooddad409 · 2021-12-11T22:13:36.850Z

Striker840:

Guilds:

WuWei:

Read it. Don’t hide from it.

I am in your twisted world here. I see it, read it, and try to understand it.

But too many times, facts do not line up with a lot of the beliefs in your reality.

The arrogance gets in the way, especially when you think you know more about people here, than they know themselves.

Ohhhh the irony in the last part is ummmmm, glaring.

There’s a lot of irony in that whole post actually.

Eagle-Keeper · 2021-12-11T22:24:12.236Z

DougBH:

All of which demonstrates that while immigration may increase GDP, it reduces GDP per capita, which is to say lifestyle where it counts. And there might be some case that it doesn’t reduce the lifestyle of those already native to here, the same people who want open borders also want equity of results, which means redistribution. And that is “build back better”.

To take these numbers further, supporting 1 million impoverished children even at just $50,000/year would cost US taxpayers 50 billion dollars. Then assuming a 20 year time frame would bring the cost to 1 trillion dollars. Clearly the open borders crowd would want this to go on for as long as possible. So then imagine doing this over a 10 year period, which would bring the cost to 10 trillion dollars.

Guilds · 2021-12-11T22:28:48.550Z

conan:

Yes libs like authoritarian government

Your projection is getting old.

conan · 2021-12-11T22:32:11.522Z

Your denial is getting old.

Guilds · 2021-12-11T22:39:22.356Z

gooddad409:

There’s a lot of irony in that whole post actually.

The election was stolen
Climate change is a hoax
Tax cuts, create more revenue
Trickle down theory is valid
Racism is no longer an issue
Corporations are persons, with the same constitutional protections as human persons
The spending of money ,is considered free speech, protected by the 1st.

This is what the majority of cons here believe, and defend. All of them are demonstratively false.

But the RW has created it’s own echo chamber, to distort the facts…so debate is basically pointless, because most RW’ers base their beliefs on faith, and emotion.

It was not this bad prior to about 2014… today, it has gone to insanity.

Guilds · 2021-12-11T22:42:25.874Z

conan:

Your denial is getting old.

Damn, that was original.

Remember, you are the ones that think taxes is stealing, and seat belt laws are authoritarian.

Which shows you have no idea what authoritarianism is.

It is truly sad how far the RW/Cons have gone off the rails.

WuWei · 2021-12-11T22:45:01.023Z

It just dawned on me; you don’t want to work.

Guilds · 2021-12-11T23:23:44.913Z

WuWei:

It just dawned on me; you don’t want to work.

Another mystical post from SF…trying to put someone in a box you have created.

Your schtick is boring…

WuWei · 2021-12-11T23:45:22.457Z

Guilds:

WuWei:

It just dawned on me; you don’t want to work.

Another mystical post from SF…trying to put someone in a box you have created.

Your schtick is boring…

It all makes sense now.

Guilds · 2021-12-12T00:03:43.906Z

WuWei:

It all makes sense now.

Glad you are feeling good about yourself now.

Still boring though.

Ceasar · 2021-12-12T03:43:26.841Z

This will probably be the end of the economy. I think we are actually at over 15% inflation, maybe more. The 6% is a bunch of deceit. If it was done like when Carter was president, it would be likely over 15%.

Add this insanity to what is already done & I think we will have Hyperinflation. Better be a really stocked up prepper at that point.

https://www.ancreport.com/the-real-inflation-rate/

Striker840 · 2021-12-12T04:18:30.167Z

Went to the grocery store today, shelves were empty, if I knew how to post a pic I would of the one I took today.

Had maybe half a cart of stuff, 2 roasts, package of bacon, misc stuff essentially.
Total at checkout before coupons was 185.00!!!
Could have taken it all in one trip myself except for the Tide.

Freaking insane prices right now, and what does Biden say…“gas prices dropped $0.07”

Inflation is killing those of us on fixed incomes!!