"Caravan" Border Watch

[BlueTex]

@WuWei

As I said. We’ll see.

There is nothing to “see”… Once they apply for asylum and pass the initial interview (about 80% pass the first interview) they will be detained in the US. Legally, there is no other option…

[party-free]

@WuWei

And what is going to happen at the border as soon as DACA and the Dreamers get amnesty?

The entire first, lengthy, section of the 2013 bill dealt directly with border security. That’s what Republicans wanted, isn’t it? A beefed up border?

[WuWei]

They aren’t going to pay back taxes or anything else. They will be given amnesty despite everything but maybe murder.

They had a chance to sign up for DACA, what percentage did?

What happens to the economy the day after amnesty?

@party-free

Make a legitimate attempt at comprehensive immigration reform rather than just talking about it and using it as a wedge issue?

Words that mean absolutely nothing. Like what?

[WuWei]

@party-free

@WuWei

And what is going to happen at the border as soon as DACA and the Dreamers get amnesty?

The entire first, lengthy, section of the 2013 bill dealt directly with border security. That’s what Republicans wanted, isn’t it? A beefed up border?

That wasn’t the question. What are the illegals not already in the country going to do?

[WuWei]

@BlueTex

There is nothing to “see”… Once they apply for asylum and pass the initial interview (about 80% pass the first interview) they will be detained in the US. Legally, there is no other option…

We’ll see.

[party-free]

@WuWei

That wasn’t the question. What are the illegals not already in the country going to do?

If they’re not in the country illegally, they’re not illegals.

No idea what other people will do. But the 2013 bill provided the resources to beef up the border and deal with those that would make the attempt. That’s what Republicans wanted, right? Beefed up border security to deal with those who try?

[party-free]

What was I wrong about?

[WuWei]

@party-free

@WuWei

That wasn’t the question. What are the illegals not already in the country going to do?

If they’re not in the country illegally, they’re not illegals.

No idea what other people will do. But the 2013 bill provided the resources to beef up the border and deal with those that would make the attempt. That’s what Republicans wanted, right? Beefed up border security to deal with those who try?

What does pedantic mean?

Yes, you do have an idea. We both know exactly what will happen.

[POPCORN]

@WuWei

@POPCORN

Address the reality of the issue and work to fix the issue with more than some absurdly expensive band-aid, or some fairytale belief they can deport 12-22 million people. Enter the real world and stop living in fear-monger-ville.

I agree. How?

And what is going to happen at the border as soon as DACA and the Dreamers get amnesty?

Comprehensive immigration reform would include enhancing border security.

[WuWei]

@party-free

What was I wrong about?

I’ve moved on, you should too.

[WuWei]

@POPCORN

Comprehensive immigration reform would include enhancing border security.

Words that mean nothing. Like what?

[party-free]

@WuWei

What does pedantic mean?

pedantic

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adj: marked by a narrow focus on or display of learning especially its trivial aspects

@WuWei

Yes, you do have an idea. We both know exactly what will happen.

We’ll never know because House Republicans decided to take their ball and go home rather than participate.

[POPCORN]

@WuWei

@POPCORN

Comprehensive immigration reform would include enhancing border security.

Words that mean nothing. Like what?

Sure they do. All words have meaning. Like comprehensive immigration reform has meaning and there was legislation in 2013.

[party-free]

Make an accusation, have the cajones to back it up. Or don’t make it in the first place. It’s unbecoming.

[Mountain_Soldier]

@party-free

The bill provided a pathway to citizenship and the requirements for obtaining it.

Are you stating that you will only be OK with a comprehensive immigration bill that deports the 11 million, or so, illegal immigrants in the US?

How are you not OK with that bill, that grants legal status and a pathway to citizenship, but you are OK with DACA being a part of a Trump bill? That’s some pretzel-twisting reconciliation.

How can you reconcile being OK with DACA in a bill, but not a pathway to citizenship in another?

One thing I don’t see in the bill is the stated peaties for being caught in the country illegally after the bill would pass. Without much harsher penalties for overstaying visas or border jumping, what’s stopping us from being back in the same position 10 or 20 years down the road? If illegals aren’t immediately deported and/or imprisoned upon being found here illegally, what’s the point of the bill? It will be futile.

[WuWei]

@party-free

We’ll never know because House Republicans decided to take their ball and go home rather than participate.

Take a wild guess.

[Mountain_Soldier]

@Mountain_Soldier

@party-free

The bill provided a pathway to citizenship and the requirements for obtaining it.

Are you stating that you will only be OK with a comprehensive immigration bill that deports the 11 million, or so, illegal immigrants in the US?

How are you not OK with that bill, that grants legal status and a pathway to citizenship, but you are OK with DACA being a part of a Trump bill? That’s some pretzel-twisting reconciliation.

How can you reconcile being OK with DACA in a bill, but not a pathway to citizenship in another?

One thing I don’t see in the bill is the stated peaties for being caught in the country illegally after the bill would pass. Without much harsher penalties for overstaying visas or border jumping, what’s stopping us from being back in the same position 10 or 20 years down the road? If illegals aren’t immediately deported and/or imprisoned upon being found here illegally, what’s the point of the bill? It will be futile.

Penalties.

[BlueTex]

@WuWei

We’ll see.

Are you suggesting that they will stay in Mexico while their asylum case is being heard (typically a process taking several months)? How exactly would that work?

[WuWei]

@party-free

Make an accusation, have the cajones to back it up. Or don’t make it in the first place. It’s unbecoming.

You were wrong and you know it. So do I. No need to rub your nose in it.

[WuWei]

@BlueTex

Are you suggesting that they will stay in Mexico while their asylum case is being heard (typically a process taking several months)? How exactly would that work?

I’m suggesting we’ll see.