Cant kill enough through abortion, lets switch to crack-pipes

[Call_me_Ishmael]

I’ll be sure not to vote for Alex Azar.

[Jezcoe]

@Call_me_Ishmael

I’ll be sure not to vote for Alex Azar.

Appointed by Trump.

Official policy of the Trump adminstration was to fund needle exchange programs.

[Oldandtired]

What you want to do is keep the addict addicted. Every addict has to hit a bottom so low even they can’t stand it. They will never hit that low with people like you. All they will find is death.

[Jezcoe]

@Oldandtired

What you want to do is keep the addict addicted. Every addict has to hit a bottom so low even they can’t stand it. They will never hit that low with people like you. All they will find is death.

So let us try to see that they don’t get HIV or Hepatitis on the way down.

[Oldandtired]

Jail is sometimes the low that turns an addict to the group that can show them the path to recovery.
I see this is all about cost to you and not saving lives.

[Jezcoe]

@Oldandtired

Jail is sometimes the low that turns an addict to the group that can show them the path to recovery.
I see this is all about cost to you and not saving lives.

Addiction recovery programs are way cheaper than jail. And a lot less dangeerous.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@Jezcoe

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Jezcoe

Which leads to sharing of needles and other paraphanalia.

That leads to greater incidence of disease.

It leads to more overdose and death.

It rarely gets people clean.

Your thinking is akin to this :
Abusive men should be issued blackjacks so when they hit their women, they don’t hurt their fists.

Even Mike Pence instituted a needle exchange program.

Because it works to reduce disease.

Until this headline, Conservatives had come around to these programs.

in 2019 Florida, Missouri, Iowa, and Arizona introduced legislation in support of needle exchange programs… and they were all cosponsored by Republicans.

So… what changed?

Very selective you are.

“During the Trump administration, the Justice Department took a hard stance against such facilities, blasting then-New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio in 2019 for his plan to open several sites.”

DOJ reportedly considering safe injection sites in shift from Trump era

[Oldandtired]

Every person who makes life easier for an addict is helping them kill themselves.

[Oldandtired]

Maybe you need to leave the addict to the groups that actually help them recover. Because all you are doing is making it easier for the addict to continue killing themselves.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@Oldandtired

Every person who makes life easier for an addict is helping them kill themselves.

Extending their life and their addiction also extends the damage they do to society… crime, welfare, psychotic behavior.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@Jezcoe

Official policy of the Trump adminstration was to fund needle exchange programs.

Ummmmmm. No it wasnt. It was the policy of that one department. Why post falsehoods?

“During the Trump administration, the Justice Department took a hard stance against such facilities, blasting then-New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio in 2019 for his plan to open several sites.”

DOJ reportedly considering safe injection sites in shift from Trump era

[Oldandtired]

Look at you wanting to keep an addict addicted. Maybe getting HIV or Hepatitis is what forces an addict to look for help.

[FreeAndClear]

@Oldandtired

What you want to do is keep the addict addicted. Every addict has to hit a bottom so low even they can’t stand it. They will never hit that low with people like you. All they will find is death.

“with people like me” Right because addicts have a history of making things easier on themselves. The goal is to reduce deaths.

[FreeAndClear]

@Oldandtired

Look at you wanting to keep an addict addicted. Maybe getting HIV or Hepatitis is what forces an addict to look for help.

And that cost a lot more to the state to treat…

[Jezcoe]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Jezcoe

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Jezcoe

Which leads to sharing of needles and other paraphanalia.

That leads to greater incidence of disease.

It leads to more overdose and death.

It rarely gets people clean.

Your thinking is akin to this :
Abusive men should be issued blackjacks so when they hit their women, they don’t hurt their fists.

Even Mike Pence instituted a needle exchange program.

Because it works to reduce disease.

Until this headline, Conservatives had come around to these programs.

in 2019 Florida, Missouri, Iowa, and Arizona introduced legislation in support of needle exchange programs… and they were all cosponsored by Republicans.

So… what changed?

Very selective you are.

During the Trump administration, the Justice Department took a hard stance against such facilities, blasting then-New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio in 2019 for his plan to open several sites.

DOJ is looking at opening safe injection sites: report

I support safe injection sites. Others don’t. I am into harm reduction at the lowest cost… but that is just me.

But I get why we have to go there in a thread that was started as an OMG BIDEN IS GIVING OUT CRACK PIPES when that is only part of a small fund whose use is about decreasing disease transmission using programs that give clean paraphanalia to addicts… and it is something that literally everyone… including Conservatives understand that it works.

But that has to be thrown out… because the headline

[Oldandtired]

I think you need to go to an AA meeting and lean something.

[Jezcoe]

@Oldandtired

Look at you wanting to keep an addict addicted. Maybe getting HIV or Hepatitis is what forces an addict to look for help.

Yeah… and then we have someone who is in drug recovery and has HIV… that is better… how?

[FreeAndClear]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Jezcoe

Official policy of the Trump adminstration was to fund needle exchange programs.

Ummmmmm. No it wasnt. It was the policy of that one Department.

“During the Trump administration, the Justice Department took a hard stance against such facilities, blasting then-New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio in 2019 for his plan to open several sites.”

DOJ is looking at opening safe injection sites: report

Yes yes it was

The Trump administration is backing needle exchange programs to reach its goal of ending HIV transmission within a decade, and will continue to oppose supervised injection sites where people inject illegal drugs in a room with a healthcare provider nearby. The policy position, stated by Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar at the National HIV Prevention Conference in Atlanta, is in line with actions the administration has taken in the past. In February, the Department of Justice sued a nonprofit in Philadelphia that planned to build a supervised injection site, even though it wasn’t using government funding.

Trump backs needle exchange, not supervised injections, in his HIV strategy -...

@Jezcoe said needle exchange… not facilities.

[Oldandtired]

Is see it is not about saving lives for you it is all about cost.

[Guilds]

@WuWei

Kill Kapitalism!

Nah,just regulate it.