Can sane people like a President but dislike his policies?

WildRose · 2018-05-29T17:41:43.278Z

WuWei:

I despise Trump as a person (he’s not a man by my definition).

I agree with some of the policies.

My thoughts exactly. I can’t stand him at all on a personal level but for the most part find myself supporting most of his policies.

DougBH · 2018-05-29T21:27:45.161Z

Article relevant to this thread:

NBC News

Mitt Romney: Trump is not a role model for my grandkids

The candidate for U.S. Senate in Utah told NBC News that Trump "has departed in some cases from the truth."

Romney: Romney acknowledged that Trump’s policies had “been by and large a good deal better than I might have expected,” but added that “some of the things he has said are not ones that I would aspire for my grandkids to adopt."

Whatever you think of Romney, I think he passes for a sane man.

BillBrown · 2018-05-29T22:01:28.864Z

Safiel:

It can be done. Jimmy Carter is the salt of the earth as a man. His Presidency didn’t work out, partly due to his own ineptitude and party due to crap from Eisenhower/LBJ/Nixon catching up to him.

I opposed most of Carter’s program, but think highly of him as a person.

I don’t know Carter, but I know a couple of people who do know him and have done business with him
Let’s say, they disagree with you about Carter as a man.

BillBrown · 2018-05-29T22:04:17.453Z

I’d be careful about “liking” any public figure unless you actually know him. In my experience you’ll always get fooled going between the TV image and the real person.

FloridaYankee · 2018-05-29T22:13:35.359Z

BillBrown:

I’d be careful about “liking” any public figure unless you actually know him. In my experience you’ll always get fooled going between the TV image and the real person.

You got that right…how many people thought Bill Cosby was such a wonderful man? He’s a ■■■■■■■ lech.

Gaius · 2018-05-30T04:02:50.164Z

Be that as it may, “courage of my convictions” tells me to go way out on a limb and say that James Earl Carter, Annapolis graduate,
navy veteran, (and a nukie!),
a southerner,
a devout Christian who taught Sunday School even when holding high office,
a farmer, and a businessman, (not a lawyer),
a man of peace, and honor
is worth standing up for.

Some living people are worth standing up for.

BillBrown · 2018-05-30T13:13:41.936Z

Mail Online – 30 Apr 12

Why 'annoying cuss' Jimmy Carter is the least popular member of the...

A new book has revealed that George H.W Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama all dislike the one-term leader's insistence on making his views known publicly.

https://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/carter-kessler-service/2009/08/06/id/332143/

madasheck · 2018-05-30T14:35:47.883Z

Thirstyboots:

Or the other way around of disliking a President but like his policies?

Blackwolf:

It’s the rationale by which many here justify their support of Donald (policy over personality). I’m willing to accept that justification, to a certain extent.

It’s when they attempt to defend the man himself that I call bull ■■■■■ He’s a ■■■■■■ excuse for a man and a human being, and any attempt to persuade otherwise is laughable.

BUT HILLARY

Safiel:

It can be done. Jimmy Carter is the salt of the earth as a man. His Presidency didn’t work out, partly due to his own ineptitude and party due to crap from Eisenhower/LBJ/Nixon catching up to him.

I opposed most of Carter’s program, but think highly of him as a person.

I didn’t agree with Dubya’s policies and I thought he was kind of a Gomer Pyle type of guy, but you couldn’t hate him, really. He was folksy.

And for the record, I think Carter was a great president. Then and now.

Guvnah · 2018-05-30T17:22:20.642Z

Thirstyboots:

Can sane people like a President but dislike his policies?

Or the other way around of disliking a President but like his policies?

It should (SHOULD) go without saying that people can do this.

TheRedComet · 2018-05-30T17:49:59.637Z

There’s a limit.

I personally consider Trump to be a racially biased (whether it’s through ignorance or racism I’m not sure) individual who has always displayed sexist behavior against women. Those are two things I will not tolerate and will not offer my support to even if I do agree with some of his positions.

I have principles that I have dug as a trench into the field. I don’t cross them.

Konssurvative1 · 2018-05-31T03:41:17.227Z

Yeah…i actually like Obama the guy. Hated Obama’s policies…simple enough?

BillBrown · 2018-05-31T07:13:36.363Z

Konssurvative1:

Yeah…i actually like Obama the guy. Hated Obama’s policies…simple enough?

Have you ever met Obama?
How do you know you like him?

MarkyS · 2018-05-31T07:24:02.243Z

Actually, he was hugely disliked by a lot of Washingtonians. Considered a self-important jerk and a deliberate outsider. Not at all warm or friendly. Just a pasted-on smile.

His wife was well-liked, though, but that is often the case.

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Grimalken · 2018-05-31T13:03:31.346Z

…and like a lot of First Ladies, there is nothing really special about them, no one would have known who they were, if not for who they married.

So, between Barack being known as a robotic, “self-important jerk,” and the likeable Michelle being a regular mom and wife, why would people want to watch a Netflix show about them?

We don’t really know these people, so I never understood why people get so wrapped up in politicians. It’s a kind of creepy cult of personality.

Perdidochas · 2018-05-31T13:17:06.592Z

I think you can dislike the President but like some of his policies. I dislike the President, but like some (not nearly all) of his policies. I do like him better than his former opponent (but that’s not saying much).

Perdidochas · 2018-05-31T13:18:50.892Z

Well, my father (who had worked for the state of Georgia when Carter was governor) had plenty of bad things to say about the man. My father thought he was one of the worst governors he’d ever worked for.

WildRose · 2018-05-31T19:06:36.773Z

It’s called “Public Persona”.

WildRose · 2018-05-31T19:09:31.746Z

Reminds me of an old Clinton Joke.

They are on a road trip just prior to his first inaguration and have to stop for gas in Arkansas. While the driver is gassing up they are talking and Bill says to her, “Honey, just think if you hadn’t married me you might be married to the guy running the gas station instead of being the next First Lady of the US”.

She looks at him, bats her eyes and says, “No dear, if I hadn’t married you, you’d be pumping the gas and I’d still be the next First Lady of the US”.

TheRedComet · 2018-05-31T19:25:39.995Z

I can agree with that.

The only thing I liked about the 2016 election was watching Hillary lose.

I hated both of them, but I enjoyed her elitist ass getting put down like the rest of us.

SimplyTrying · 2018-05-31T19:29:24.812Z

Yes, you can agree with the end result. It’s like if a hurricane that knocks down a building you were going to pay to have demolished anyway.

Hurricane: bad
Saved money on demolition: good