Can sane people like a President but dislike his policies?

Thirstyboots · 2018-05-29T05:25:34.495Z

I agree! Carter is a perfect example. Didn’t care for his policies but the man is close to sainthood socially! I believe Obama’s a good person but again don’t agree with some of his political ideology. IMHO, his poll numbers will only go up over time. Bill Clinton would be a blast to hangout with on the golf course. Reagan, a great man in my opinion with great policies as well as both Bush’s. Trump has done both decent and boneheaded actions but the guy is a man child and compulsive liar! Two modern era presidents I believe go down as greats over time will be Reagan and Obama! I know, call me a lib. Lol

SixFoot · 2018-05-29T14:12:35.717Z

Yes, people can and they do all the time. The reason you don’t hear from them, is because they don’t tend to get online and tell the world all about their solutions to everything.

Grimalken · 2018-05-29T14:20:10.658Z

Thirstyboots:

Or the other way around of disliking a President but like his policies?

Yes, on both counts.

It’s like watching a movie, you can love a movie, but have a personal dislike of the actor or director.

It’s different with a president, because their policies and actions can affect you, your family and your entire community. So if you benefit from lower taxes, a rising 401K, and the economy is doing well, then your petty, personal like, or dislike for the president is insignificant.

DougBH · 2018-05-29T14:26:21.200Z

Blackwolf:

It’s the rationale by which many here justify their support of Donald (policy over personality). I’m willing to accept that justification, to a certain extent.

It’s when they attempt to defend the man himself that I call bull ■■■■■ He’s a ■■■■■■ excuse for a man and a human being, and any attempt to persuade otherwise is laughable.

BUT HILLARY

Except…you can defend an offensive, disagreeable person from accusations that have not been proven. I wouldn’t defend Trump from those who say he has a cruder style than most past Presidents and shows little concern for lying when it suits him…but I would defend him from those who claim that he is selling out the country to Putin.
If a person fails in one thing it down’t mean he has done another.

Jamerican · 2018-05-29T16:53:37.884Z

I like dubya, didn’t like many of his policies but seems like a good authentic dude. I will say the same about Obama.
I like Bush Sr.
I like Carter a lot because of all the community service he does. Reagan…well have to admit I don’t like him mostly because of my mom’s disdain of him. LOL!
I don’t like Clinton, to me he is a very shady dude, plus he was dead to me after the crime and immigration bills.

The current person in office is unlikable due to him being a narcissistic, self absorbed, bigoted, sexist, and a liar with no self-control.

WuWei · 2018-05-29T16:59:08.145Z

Great example.

WuWei · 2018-05-29T17:03:21.642Z

I despise Trump as a person (he’s not a man by my definition).

I agree with some of the policies.

Eclipze · 2018-05-29T17:05:40.699Z

WuWei:

I despise Trump as a person (he’s not a man by my definition).

I agree with some of the policies.

60/40? 30/70?

WuWei · 2018-05-29T17:11:16.496Z

TBD

I’m not smart enough to tell the future. That’s why I had to join the Army.

WildRose · 2018-05-29T17:40:35.156Z

Of course it can but only if you aren’t a blind partisan.

Jimmy Carter is as fine a man as ever held the office but he was a horrible president.

WildRose · 2018-05-29T17:41:43.278Z

WuWei:

I despise Trump as a person (he’s not a man by my definition).

I agree with some of the policies.

My thoughts exactly. I can’t stand him at all on a personal level but for the most part find myself supporting most of his policies.

DougBH · 2018-05-29T21:27:45.161Z

Article relevant to this thread:

NBC News

Mitt Romney: Trump is not a role model for my grandkids

The candidate for U.S. Senate in Utah told NBC News that Trump "has departed in some cases from the truth."

Romney: Romney acknowledged that Trump’s policies had “been by and large a good deal better than I might have expected,” but added that “some of the things he has said are not ones that I would aspire for my grandkids to adopt."

Whatever you think of Romney, I think he passes for a sane man.

BillBrown · 2018-05-29T22:01:28.864Z

Safiel:

It can be done. Jimmy Carter is the salt of the earth as a man. His Presidency didn’t work out, partly due to his own ineptitude and party due to crap from Eisenhower/LBJ/Nixon catching up to him.

I opposed most of Carter’s program, but think highly of him as a person.

I don’t know Carter, but I know a couple of people who do know him and have done business with him
Let’s say, they disagree with you about Carter as a man.

BillBrown · 2018-05-29T22:04:17.453Z

I’d be careful about “liking” any public figure unless you actually know him. In my experience you’ll always get fooled going between the TV image and the real person.

FloridaYankee · 2018-05-29T22:13:35.359Z

BillBrown:

I’d be careful about “liking” any public figure unless you actually know him. In my experience you’ll always get fooled going between the TV image and the real person.

You got that right…how many people thought Bill Cosby was such a wonderful man? He’s a ■■■■■■■ lech.

Gaius · 2018-05-30T04:02:50.164Z

Be that as it may, “courage of my convictions” tells me to go way out on a limb and say that James Earl Carter, Annapolis graduate,
navy veteran, (and a nukie!),
a southerner,
a devout Christian who taught Sunday School even when holding high office,
a farmer, and a businessman, (not a lawyer),
a man of peace, and honor
is worth standing up for.

Some living people are worth standing up for.

BillBrown · 2018-05-30T13:13:41.936Z

Mail Online – 30 Apr 12

Why 'annoying cuss' Jimmy Carter is the least popular member of the...

A new book has revealed that George H.W Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama all dislike the one-term leader's insistence on making his views known publicly.

https://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/carter-kessler-service/2009/08/06/id/332143/

madasheck · 2018-05-30T14:35:47.883Z

Thirstyboots:

Or the other way around of disliking a President but like his policies?

Blackwolf:

It’s the rationale by which many here justify their support of Donald (policy over personality). I’m willing to accept that justification, to a certain extent.

It’s when they attempt to defend the man himself that I call bull ■■■■■ He’s a ■■■■■■ excuse for a man and a human being, and any attempt to persuade otherwise is laughable.

BUT HILLARY

Safiel:

It can be done. Jimmy Carter is the salt of the earth as a man. His Presidency didn’t work out, partly due to his own ineptitude and party due to crap from Eisenhower/LBJ/Nixon catching up to him.

I opposed most of Carter’s program, but think highly of him as a person.

I didn’t agree with Dubya’s policies and I thought he was kind of a Gomer Pyle type of guy, but you couldn’t hate him, really. He was folksy.

And for the record, I think Carter was a great president. Then and now.

Guvnah · 2018-05-30T17:22:20.642Z

Thirstyboots:

Can sane people like a President but dislike his policies?

Or the other way around of disliking a President but like his policies?

It should (SHOULD) go without saying that people can do this.

TheRedComet · 2018-05-30T17:49:59.637Z

There’s a limit.

I personally consider Trump to be a racially biased (whether it’s through ignorance or racism I’m not sure) individual who has always displayed sexist behavior against women. Those are two things I will not tolerate and will not offer my support to even if I do agree with some of his positions.

I have principles that I have dug as a trench into the field. I don’t cross them.