Can ANYONE answer the following question regarding masks?

biggestal99 · 2022-02-08T11:39:17.298Z

Eagle-Keeper:

I believe that the answers to these types of questions would explain why public mask mandates were largely ineffective. Agree?

They were effective, to what degree is the question.

I don’t know.

Allan

Eagle-Keeper · 2022-02-08T17:39:11.513Z

I believe another area of agreement is that none of these masks were designed to contain a virus for 8 to 10 hours a day.

Camp · 2022-02-08T17:49:26.747Z

Not even close.

Eagle-Keeper · 2022-02-11T14:27:20.394Z

biggestal99:

Eagle-Keeper:

I believe that the answers to these types of questions would explain why public mask mandates were largely ineffective. Agree?

They were effective, to what degree is the question.

I don’t know.

Allan

Infection rate of the top 4 states (by population):

CA/blue - 0.222
TX/red - 0.213
FL/red - 0.257
NY/blue - 0.255

The math disagrees!

PS - NJ is 0.240, TX did the best, even better than NJ.

Bosun · 2022-02-11T15:19:09.361Z

When were they effective and what happened to make the ineffective?

dderatz · 2022-02-11T18:14:22.601Z

Eagle-Keeper:

Infection rate of the top 4 states (by population):

CA/blue - 0.222
TX/red - 0.213
FL/red - 0.257
NY/blue - 0.255

The math disagrees!

PS - NJ is 0.240, TX did the best, even better than NJ.

Your statistic is a little misleading. That is is not FL=.257%; that’s 25.7%.
Not saying you said otherwise, but just as a clarification. While I grant you that TX did better than any of the others, there are 16 worse states per capita before you get to FL and NY, all of them red except RI, which is the worst in the US at 33%, and DE, which is only slightly worse than NY (25.88%).

Source:U.S. states with the highest COVID rates 2023 | Statista

The Texas map is a little unexpected, I think, because the more rural areas are doing far worse than the urban centers.

Source: Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) - Symptoms and causes - Mayo Clinic

Camp · 2022-02-11T18:22:32.389Z

That actually bolsters the argument that the public health measures were ineffective.

Pretty much the same result everywhere that separated nursing home infected from the uninfected.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2022-02-11T18:29:55.437Z

Democrats politicized covid in an election year to justify underhanded methods.

Period. And from there it was only chaos and confusion and missteps and accusations. And that led to wackos on both sides gathering around them their own cults of mistrust and ignorance and blind obedience.

Wear a mask or you are killing us.
Don’t wear a mask or you are surrendering to tyranny.

Camp · 2022-02-11T18:37:50.628Z

The airplane masked bum fights were the best.

It all needs to stop now.

Camp · 2022-02-11T18:40:39.395Z

We just feel the torment as the lease ends.

Cratic3947 · 2022-02-11T18:44:11.642Z

Cloth and paper masks were just silly and another fake news story the left fell for over head over heels.

Screaming at people and worse because they were all ginned up on fake news. Like Russian Collusion.
Believing the dem media after they’ve lied to you over and over and over is a form of insanity.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2022-02-11T18:46:52.990Z

Good analogy. Just watched the fellowship again.

WuWei · 2022-02-11T20:46:52.112Z

biggestal99:

Eagle-Keeper:

I believe that the answers to these types of questions would explain why public mask mandates were largely ineffective. Agree?

They were effective, to what degree is the question.

I don’t know.

Allan

Then how can you make that claim?

Eagle-Keeper · 2022-02-11T22:26:58.188Z

dderatz:

Eagle-Keeper:

Infection rate of the top 4 states (by population):

CA/blue - 0.222
TX/red - 0.213
FL/red - 0.257
NY/blue - 0.255

The math disagrees!

PS - NJ is 0.240, TX did the best, even better than NJ.

Your statistic is a little misleading. That is is not FL=.257%; that’s 25.7%.
Not saying you said otherwise, but just as a clarification. While I grant you that TX did better than any of the others, there are 16 worse states per capita before you get to FL and NY, all of them red except RI, which is the worst in the US at 33%, and DE, which is only slightly worse than NY (25.88%).

I purposely didn’t put it in percentage because I left it as a rate, i.e. current case count per population. I also focused on the most populated states since theoretically that should provide more accurate data; more people = more data. CA is slightly worse than TX, while FL & NY are virtually identical. Nonetheless, whether looking it as a rate or as a percentage then one must determine what percentage of higher cases is a significant statistical difference.

dderatz · 2022-02-11T23:30:42.406Z

Eagle-Keeper:

I purposely didn’t put it in percentage because I left it as a rate, i.e. current case count per population. I

Yes, I understood that. The clarification was for those that might seize on the apparently low number and claim that it was a percentage.

biggestal99 · 2022-02-12T11:35:35.842Z

dderatz:

The Texas map is a little unexpected, I think, because the more rural areas are doing far worse than the urban centers.

Simple explanation.

Vax vs unvax.

Allan

biggestal99 · 2022-02-12T11:40:28.901Z

WuWei:

Then how can you make that claim?

Empirical evidence.

Again I know they were effective,. Don’t know how much

Allan

Eagle-Keeper · 2022-02-12T11:45:31.091Z

biggestal99:

WuWei:

Then how can you make that claim?

Empirical evidence.

Again I know they were effective,. Don’t know how much

How effective are the various masks at containing a virus for an 8 to 10 hour time frame?

WuWei · 2022-02-12T13:08:13.581Z

biggestal99:

WuWei:

Then how can you make that claim?

Empirical evidence.

Again I know they were effective,. Don’t know how much

Allan

If you had empirical evidence, you would know how much.

biggestal99 · 2022-02-13T11:55:17.472Z

WuWei:

If you had empirical evidence, you would know how much.

I disagree.

The measurement of effectiveness cannot be Correlated to my empirical evidence.

We will just have to agree to disagree on the point in question.

Allan