Can America survive a democratic victory?

WCD9973 · 2020-05-18T22:04:11.396Z

altair1013:

Do you know why I think you are? Have you read what you said?

Yes. I do not think you understand or follow politics that closely. Because I have read what YOU wrote which has been factually wrong more then once when it comes to politics.

wonderingrover · 2020-05-18T22:06:17.781Z

Hell, we’ve survived Trump, even though the last couple of months have been rough.

After this, I think the nation can survive just about anything.

WCD9973 · 2020-05-18T22:06:54.648Z

Mountain_Soldier:

You forget Harry Reid? How convenient.

You said a “Few years”. That implies normally between 3 and 5.
Harry Reid did it over 7 years ago (and I disagreed). So to recap

“Who removed the fillbuster a few years ago” answer -Republicans.
“Whose current President or President nominee has called for the end of the filibuster?” answer -Republicans.

So your conclusion from that is DEMS want to remove the fillbuster because over 7 years ago a Dem did it?

altair1013 · 2020-05-18T22:09:05.271Z

WCD9973:

Yes. I do not think you understand or follow politics that closely.

And there you have it. Proving my point.

And I don’t think you understand or follow manners or decency that closely. Because you have trouble communicating in a normal, non rude manner.

WCD9973 · 2020-05-18T22:16:36.959Z

Odd.
Look, if I said “clearly the Washington Redskins are the best team in football” I think a very reasonable response to that would be “You don’t really follow the NFL do you”.

If I said “Bryce Harper is the best Hitter for the Nationals” it would be a perfectly non rude response to say “I guess you don’t follow baseball”.

And If someone says to me “AOC controls the DNC” it is very reasonable to determine that person doesn’t follow politics.

Not rude. It’s just obviously factual wrong so a it shows a reasonable conclusion.

Mountain_Soldier · 2020-05-18T22:20:29.204Z

WCD9973:

Mountain_Soldier:

And you stated you support the assault weapon ban. Does that make you an extremist?

I did? You sure about that? I supported the VA bill that was rejected?
Please -By all means -quote that post.

New Lunacy from Virginia

I’m disspointed, but out of all the bills, this is the one I cared the least about.
Universal background checks was #1 for me,
Red flag was #2
Allowing cities and counties to be able to determine if they wanted their government buildings to not allow weapons was number 3

One gun a month and assault weapon bans I agree with, but not really anything I cared strongly about.

Is that not you?

WCD9973 · 2020-05-18T22:21:43.239Z

It is. Fair enough. I’ll stand by it. In general, I have nothing against it.
And as stated, def not something I cared about that much where I would push for it

Mountain_Soldier · 2020-05-18T22:22:31.626Z

WCD9973:

It is and I do agree in general with a assualt weapons ban. But not the way it was written in this bill.
And as stated, def not something I cared about that much where I would push for it

The bill proposed didn’t have gun seizures in it. It had a grandfather clause. It was still rejected. What didn’t you agree with?

WCD9973 · 2020-05-18T22:23:51.752Z

I edit. I’m remembering now. You are correct. More indifference.
I was against the confiscation part.
I generally am find with assualt weapons ban but find them generally pointless.

WuWei · 2020-05-18T22:27:37.410Z

WCD9973:

That implies normally between 3 and 5.

Mountain_Soldier · 2020-05-18T22:34:15.464Z

WCD9973:

Mountain_Soldier:

You forget Harry Reid? How convenient.

You said a “Few years”. That implies normally between 3 and 5.
Harry Reid did it over 7 years ago (and I disagreed). So to recap

“Who removed the fillbuster a few years ago” answer -Republicans.
“Whose current President or President nominee has called for the end of the filibuster?” answer -Republicans.

So your conclusion from that is DEMS want to remove the fillbuster because over 7 years ago a Dem did it?

My conclusion is the Dems like to do things they were against just a few years previous. When it’s conveniently expedient for them to be on the other side of the issue. They loved filibustering Bush’s nominees. Republicans retaliated, then suddenly the rules had to change.

WCD9973 · 2020-05-18T22:37:09.782Z

Mountain_Soldier:

My conclusion is the Dems like to do things they were against just a few years previous. When it’s conveniently expedient for them to be on the other side of the issue. They loved filibustering Bush’s nominees. Republicans retaliated, then suddenly the rules had to change.

Are you saying Republicans dont do that?
Hell, wasn’t it just recently the Mitch and Lindsey say that whole “Don’t appoint SC justices in a election year” wouldn’t apply this year?

WuWei · 2020-05-18T23:35:41.329Z

WCD9973:

“Im believe in our system of Government and believe in the rule of law, even when i disagree” is 100% a moderate position.

The 2nd Amendment is law. Believing in those ruling through a system of government which violates the rule of law on a routine basis is not a moderate position, it is that of an apathetic subject.

You do realize even the court doesn’t claim these are not infringements, right?

conan · 2020-05-18T23:43:46.235Z

Can America survive a democratic victory?

No!!!

If they gain control of house, senate and white house look out. They will fully weaponize our goverment and they will use that weapon to go after anyone that dares to challenge them. Republicans wouldn’t dare to speak out against em because they will use those weapons. They would make what they did to Flynn and others look like child play. And anyone that supported Trump will have targets on their forehead.

And you can take that to bank.

moonshine · 2020-05-18T23:45:08.379Z

can america survive a trump victory?

i doubt it.

CanadianJudo · 2020-05-18T23:46:46.990Z

Why are Democrat not banned from running in elections.

conan · 2020-05-18T23:53:12.994Z

That’s Different.

conan · 2020-05-18T23:56:30.339Z

You said America wouldn’t survive a year right under Trump. That’s if he didn’t quit first or forced out.

WuWei · 2020-05-19T00:01:49.145Z

Something will survive.

Mountain_Soldier · 2020-05-19T01:07:33.474Z

WCD9973:

Biden won the nomination.
Please post the link or quote where Biden said he wants to remove it. I cant find it.

I mean -The Republican Candidate for President in 2020 has voiced support for removing the filibuster and the Democrate candidate for president has voices his opposition to ending the filibuster.

That is the facts.
And in your head -Those facts = Dems want to remove the filibuster and Republicans don’t. Is that correct?

Biden was all in on Reid ending use of the filibuster. He backed that 100%.