California to pull the plug on the over budget behind schedule bullet train

Because utah is the new nevada…

I you’d like I can ask long it would take to get from LA to Denver on light rail, and ask if it would be faster than hoping in a car or plan to get from point A to point B.

Or LA and Phoenix, or San Fran and Seatle.

Take your pick, pick any two points in different states.

Plane i doubt it…car? Id like to think so.depends on how many stops you have…

See? You prove my point. There is no convincing you, even if literally every climate change prediction made by scientists comes true. We should stop trying to convince your ilk and move ahead without you.

If man were completely removed from the earth tomorrow would warming continue naturally or not?

Now here’s the funny part. AFTER you get to the bottom of some environmental man is to blame web pages you get information like this:

Throughout our planet’s history, sea level has risen and fallen dramatically. At times, there was no ice at the poles and the ocean was hundreds of feet higher than it is now; at other times, ice covered the planet and sea level was hundreds of feet lower. These changes are part of Earth’s natural glacial cycles and have occurred over millions of years. Scientists use sediment and ice cores to learn more about sea level before the advent of tide gauges and satellites.

Explains right there. Over millions of years there is evidence of the sea level being HUNDREDS of feet higher than it is now. Also hundreds of feet lower than it is now. Why is that? Natural warming and cooling cycles of the earth. I mean evidence right here that there has been NO ICE on the north and south poles in past history.

Now to get to this information you first have to read:

Sea level started rising in the late 1800s, soon after we started burning coal, gas and other fossil fuels for energy. When burned, these high-energy fuel sources send carbon dioxide up into the atmosphere. Carbon dioxide absorbs heat from the sun and traps it, warming the atmosphere and the planet.

So sea levels ONLY starting rising in the lat 1800’s . . .

Over the past 20,000 years or so, sea level has climbed some 400 feet (120 meters). As the climate warmed as part of a natural cycle, ice melted and glaciers retreated until ice sheets remained only at the poles and at the peaks of mountains. Early on, the sea rose rapidly, sometimes at rates greater than 10 feet (3 meters) per century, and then continued to grow in spurts of rapid sea level rise until about 7,000 years ago. Then, the climate stabilized and sea level rise slowed, holding largely steady for most of the last 2,000 years, based on records from corals and sediment cores. Now, however, sea level is on the rise again, rising faster now than it has in the past 6,000 years . The oldest tide gauges and coastal sediment preserved beneath swamps and marshes show that sea level began to rise around 1850, which is right around the time people started burning coal to propel steam engine trains, and it hasn’t stopped since. The climate likely started warming as a part of a natural cycle, but the accelerated warming in the last two hundred years or so is due to a rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide . The resulting rise in sea level is likely twice what we would have seen without the increase in greenhouse gasses due to human activities.

Then try try and sway you that over 20,000 years it rose 400 feet, and try and convince you because it was stable for a while, that the ONLY reason it started warming again and ice melting was man. Not that it was a natural plateau, or that nature took a pause but the ONLY reason was man. Even tough evidence suggest is the past that naturally ocean levels have been higher than now NATURALLY.

https://ocean.si.edu/through-time/ancient-seas/sea-level-rise

If they can’t build a train. A task people could do easily in 1840, how will they pull off the “'green revolution”… ?..LMAO!

Seems the majority of Cal’s Dem voters will put up with just about anything… Record poverty, record homelessness…and complete incompetence…

All evidence says it would slow, and the rate/severity of change is more the problem than simply change itself…

Just need another $5 billion?

No, there’s no evidence to support that since you can’t show the current change is in any way significantly different than prior cycles.

Of course there is, you just dismiss it.

No there isn’t. Fabrications are not evidence.

You wouldn’t use light rail between cities. Light rail is like streetcars and trams.

What rules are you talking about?

Pension rules, delivery rules . . .

this is to bad bullet trains are dope they work wonders in Japan but then again those cities were built around train system not cars.

Glad to see he pulled the plug on this boondoggle. Can’t even imagine how much of that $5 billion went to special interests and used as political paybacks.

I don’t know and neither do you. Earth goes through natural climate cycles, but that doesn’t mean that dumping billions of tons of pollutants into the air year after year after year doesn’t also have an effect.

In general the US just isn’t laid out for mass transit outside of city centers.

Our population is heavily suburbanized and nearly half of the country lives in what is classified as rural areas.

Cars are a necessity of life unless you live in the middle of a major city.

As I said, there’s no convincing your ilk and it’s pointless to try. If literally every prediction made by climate scientists came true you’d have excuses, links, and reasons why scientists are wrong and oil companies are right. Responsible people need to vote your ideology out of power, not convince you.