Sure. I’m fine with that… if deaths go up, I agree it should be reversed. How many, I’m not sure… I foolishly took Algebra instead of Statistics as my one math requirement in college.
But I think the reaction here is also interesting when compared to other laws that save lives and you help underline this when you ask, " If so, how many add’l deaths does it take for you to consider this a bad law?" Generally when it comes to the left and right divide, its the left making laws in the name of public and personal safety and the right saying its government overreach (or authoritarian, according to some).
As I mentioned earlier there is a prop up for vote in the upcoming CA election regarding the banning of selling flavored tobacco products. I’m leaning towards voting against… as I think with these sorts of things we shouldn’t punish, so to speak, those who want to legally use these harmful products because we fail at keeping them out of the hands of minors. On the other hand, how many lives can be saved by making these products illegal?
Back in 2018 we made it law in the US that all new vehicles must have back up cameras. Was this a good law because it potentially saves lives? Or is it bad law because it doesn’t save enough lives to justify the increased cost to add these features to new cars or just the general call for freedom that this is the government overstepping its constitutional role?
Good post, thank you.
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Oddly, decriminalizing shop lifting removed a potential motivation for jay walking (escaping).
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people jaywalk in NYC all the time without catastrophic results.
more than once in california i saw people patiently waiting at a crosswalk without a moving car in sight waiting for the proper signal, thats stupid and crossed the NYC way. boy the glances i got, you think i was a bank robber or something. glad california has joined the 21st century.
Allan
Smyrna
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…same with drinking and driving. 
There’s an old joke about a fellah that fell off a really tall building. As he fell past the 40th floor he was heard to shout “So far, so good!”
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rp5x5
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This is absurd.
Does anyone really get Jaywalking Tickets that aren’t deserved?
Do people really feel oppressed by this?
rp5x5
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Are you serious?
Are you so greatly imposed upon, by Jaywalking laws?
You must be kidding?
people were walking the taxpayer paid streets in the BC era.
car industry created the “crime” of jaywalking.
Allan
so no freedom to walk the streets unabated without getting hassled by big brother.
Allan
Smyrna
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The car industry created the danger of jay walking which is why it became illegal. 
there is little danger if motor vehicles are operated safely and within the law. speeding for instance……
Allan
Smyrna
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Seriously…have you already started drinking? 
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STODR
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Really? should they be able to walk the RR tracks you use and slow your train to walking speed?
How about runways at airports?
STODR
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Come on everyone knows you can walk safely on freeway if nobody speeds.
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Smyrna
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…and if there were no crimes, there’d be no criminals, no need for laws, police, jails, courts…
I think our friend @biggestal99 is on to something?
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no, lol. on my way to work in NYC.
people over cars is what i am saying.
you just say the reverse.
Allan (who will jaywalk at least 4 times on his walk from the subway station to his office)
not talking about a highway, just regular streets. but of course you knew that.
Allan
Smyrna
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…stay safe and I expect you’ll not hold the driver responsible if you get hit?
comn dont give out ridiculous examples. i am talking jaywalking when no cars are around.
Allan
