Bye Bye Blue Wave: GOP doing just fine in Hispanic Neighborhoods

WuWei · 2018-07-09T16:32:04.689Z

FreeAndClear:

This it the best thread. This thread is dedicated to all those who scream that the Dems just want more Hispanic votes with their pro legalization platform.

Apparently the gop is doing just fine with them.

You are confusing two different groups.

FreeAndClear · 2018-07-09T17:21:18.962Z

Not really… There are always Cubans that I can rely on for my point about illegals eventually voting for the GOP.

WuWei · 2018-07-09T19:36:41.211Z

FreeAndClear:

Not really… There are always Cubans that I can rely on for my point about illegals eventually voting for the GOP.

Cubans weren’t illegal.

biggestal99 · 2018-07-09T20:20:48.909Z

If they were caught “wet foot”,they were sent deported back to Cuba

Allan

FreeAndClear · 2018-07-09T20:53:55.054Z

They are under amnesty going back decades but they are technically illegals since they have to be under amnsety. They also have a legal path to citizenship.

The boatlift was an “invasion” as you guys like to call it.

WuWei · 2018-07-09T22:10:13.754Z

That’s the story.

WuWei · 2018-07-09T22:10:52.740Z

Ok, if you say so.

FreeAndClear · 2018-07-09T22:34:49.168Z

You say that a lot lately on these boards. I am not sure if it’s meant to be dismissive or “agree to disagree” or something else. I am just curious

BornAgainChristian · 2018-07-10T04:12:22.500Z

biggestal99:

place: headstart of Morris county, Dover, no
Date: June 5, 2018
Reason: jersey elections primary
Ward: 2
District : 3
Time: 7: 30
Democratic votes cast: 238
Republican votes cast: 6

Allan

Making a mountain out of a mole hill?

biggestal99 · 2018-07-10T10:20:46.444Z

Nope stating a fact. Hispanics don’t vote republican in Dover.

That is a fact.

Allan

biggestal99 · 2018-07-10T10:24:59.554Z

And that is not the truth.

The truth is the wet foot (deportation back to Cuba) and dry foot (legal)
Was the policy from 1995-2016.

And as yogi says you can look it up.

Allan

WuWei · 2018-07-10T11:20:09.310Z

biggestal99:

And that is not the truth.

The truth is the wet foot (deportation back to Cuba) and dry foot (legal)
Was the policy from 1995-2016.

And as yogi says you can look it up.

Allan

It’s not the truth that is the story?

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-07-10T11:31:35.066Z

biggestal99:

place: headstart of Morris county, Dover, no
Date: June 5, 2018
Reason: jersey elections primary
Ward: 2
District : 3
Time: 7: 30
Democratic votes cast: 238
Republican votes cast: 6

Allan

Pretty sure he was referring to legal hispanics.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-07-10T11:34:27.155Z

FreeAndClear:

Not really… There are always Cubans that I can rely on for my point about illegals eventually voting for the GOP.

Careful… If you ever prove your point, libs will lock that border down faster than you can say “ripped-away-from-their-mothers-breast”

biggestal99 · 2018-07-10T11:40:06.929Z

those are legal hispanic votes.

Dover is 70% hispanic, those are legal votes

238-6

it was close.

Allan

WuWei · 2018-07-10T11:40:57.536Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

Careful… If you ever prove your point, libs will lock that border down faster than you can say “ripped-away-from-their-mothers-breast”

“Illegal immigration wreaks havoc economically, socially, and culturally; makes a mockery of the rule of law; and is disgraceful just on basic fairness grounds alone.”

“When I see Mexican flags waved at proimmigration demonstrations, I sometimes feel a flush of patriotic resentment. When I’m forced to use a translator to communicate with the guy fixing my car, I feel a certain frustration.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/528678/

FreeAndClear · 2018-07-10T12:05:31.529Z

Great read thanks. Especially the part where “the dems convinced themselves.” Agree with that wholeheartedly the Dems have no chance of keeping the hispanic vote long term even if they see short term gains due to amnesty.

But thanks for putting some things in perspective. Really is a good article

WuWei · 2018-07-10T12:06:44.737Z

FreeAndClear:

Great read thanks. Especially the part where “the dems convinced themselves.” Agree with that wholeheartedly the Dems have no chance of keeping the hispanic vote long term even if they see short term gains due to amnesty.

But thanks for putting some things in perspective. Really is a good article

I am truly glad you liked it.

Camp · 2018-07-10T12:25:21.932Z

I know you believe this with all your being.

It just is not so. There is a balance to accepting legal immigration and not being the dumping ground of the worlds excess population.

Congress needs to get busy and quit blaming.

Camp · 2018-07-10T12:29:47.676Z

Good stuff.

Academics face cultural pressures too. In his book Exodus, Paul Collier, an economist at the University of Oxford, claims that in their “desperate [desire] not to give succor” to nativist bigots, “social scientists have strained every muscle to show that migration is good for everyone.” George Borjas of Harvard argues that since he began studying immigration in the 1980s, his fellow economists have grown far less tolerant of research that emphasizes its costs. There is, he told me, “a lot of self-censorship among young social scientists.” Because Borjas is an immigration skeptic, some might discount his perspective. But when I asked Donald Davis, a Columbia University economist who takes a more favorable view of immigration’s economic impact, about Borjas’s claim, he made a similar point. “George and I come out on different sides of policy on immigration,” Davis said, “but I agree that there are aspects of discussion in academia that don’t get sort of full view if you come to the wrong conclusion.”

Like health care the true cost is hidden as the funding might go into hypershock if revealed.