How many would you say have already been infected? 60 million? 70?

We don’t have mass random testing and contact tracing in place.

And the surrogate data sets we do have are yielding conflicting information.

Therefore even after eight months, we are flying with an opaque window (hopefully Rudy G isn’t reading my post…if he is…someone remind him what opaque means :sunglasses:) blocking our view.

Singapore was lauded as the example to follow.

95% of their cases are migrant workers, 25-30 years old, isolated in “dormitories” with mandatory routine testing.

They also don’t report non-pneumonia type deaths as COVID. No blood or heart related deaths.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2680TF

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Neither does Japan.

It’s hard to say. I think I had it, but I can’t be sure. Mild case, never got tested as it was in late February and there weren’t tests readily available. I never really thought about it like that…how many people may have had it and don’t know.

Well good news on the tracing front… there are now so many cases that they are starting to give up on trying to trace the spread.

USA USA USA

I’ve likely had it too. So has everyone else here.

The hard part is not knowing. Last December, I had a slight fever, really bad cough, thought it was the flu…went to the doctor, and they did a flu test. It was negative. No antibiotics, they sent me home and the doctor told me it was some new virus they were seeing. I had a horrible cough for the entire month and into January. I mean, I kept going, went to work, took a sick day here or there and had planned vacation around Christmas. But I was worn out. I had this horrible cough, just would not go away. It was like in college when I had walking pneumonia.

I know that they say it wasn’t here in December 19…but how do we really know?

There always were.

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It was late November when I started seeing people here and there complain about having a weird case of the flu on FB. I tuned out the noise when the panic started in Feb/March.

We’re all spreaders, just like we’ve always been with the normal flu our entire lives. No telling how many people we’ve infected and/or killed over the years (with the normal flu) from continuing to go into work sick.

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Soon…Jan 21st mostly likely…they will do the same with the case count reporting.

Just like H1N1 under O’Biden.

Stay sober my friends.

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Japan has one of the best contact tracing outfits in the business.

And a spike breaking records.

That’s nice.

And?

No, it’s not nice.

And… your narrative isn’t dancing.

Man is not in control.

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A Type 1 civilization would have had this under control a year ago. We’re not there yet.

Doesn’t that already kind of happen with blanket closures driving people to places like Lowes and Home Depot?

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60 million people infected with over 16,000 killed. Not once did they start demanding lockdowns after 1,000 dead, or 5,000 dead, or 10,000 dead, or 15,000 dead.

Things were (D)ifferent back then.

I wonder how many caught it but never had symptoms? :thinking:

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Protests. Victory celebrations. Dinner.

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Did they? I didn’t know. Who? How did they stop shoppers from going to the open store a few miles away?