Brittney Griener Released

[Conservative_frk]

I’ve said this all along. If you are protesting policy brutality, go protest at the police department. Kneeling for the National anthem does have something to do with our country. If she doesn’t want to take part in standingNational anthem played at a sporting event then, come out afterward.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Conservative_frk

If I don’t like someone/ something, I would never ask or accept their help.
That’s all I’m saying. Be consistent.

Fine. But as critical as you are of the government, I would expect it to help you if you got in a jam like Griner.

Moreover, the relationship of the citizen to the government is not the same thing as a relationship from citizen to citizen.

[Conservative_frk]

And again, I dint say they shouldn’t help her, I said she shouldn’t accept it. Just my opinion.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Conservative_frk

I’ve said this all along. If you are protesting policy brutality, go protest at the police department. Kneeling for the National anthem does have something to do with our country. If she doesn’t want to take part in standingNational anthem played at a sporting event then, come out afterward.

Your irritation has absolutely no bearing on her freedom of speech. If you don’t want to see it, close your eyes. Go get a hot dog. Whatever.

[STODR]

@Supreme_War_Pig

Absurd. The government is a concept, not a person. It can’t take umbrage.

Yes but it is humans not a concept that makes the decision. They are not immune to taking umbrage.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Conservative_frk

And again, I dint say they shouldn’t help her, I said she shouldn’t accept it. Just my opinion.

Okay.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@STODR

@Supreme_War_Pig

Absurd. The government is a concept, not a person. It can’t take umbrage.

Yes but it is humans not a concept that makes the decision. They are not immune to taking umbrage.

Maybe, but principles don’t change if somebody gets irritated.

[STODR]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@STODR

@Supreme_War_Pig

Absurd. The government is a concept, not a person. It can’t take umbrage.

Yes but it is humans not a concept that makes the decision. They are not immune to taking umbrage.

Maybe, but principles don’t change if somebody gets irritated.

Lol yes they do. Human nature. You see it all the time.

Now should it is a different matter.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@STODR

@Supreme_War_Pig

@STODR

@Supreme_War_Pig

Absurd. The government is a concept, not a person. It can’t take umbrage.

Yes but it is humans not a concept that makes the decision. They are not immune to taking umbrage.

Maybe, but principles don’t change if somebody gets irritated.

Lol yes they do. Human nature. You see it all the time.

Now should it is a different matter.

Okay.

[Samm]

@W_and_C

@Samm

@W_and_C

@Samm

If you find it as inconsistent, perhaps you should form a group and lobby to have the anthem played before every movie, every opera, and stage production on Broadway.

lol why on earth would I do that ? It’s fine with me, there are plenty of inconsistencies in life

Then why on earth are you complaining about it?

I am not.

You have a very strange way of not complaining.

[Samm]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@Samm

@Supreme_War_Pig

@Samm

@Nemesis

No one has yet explained to me why not standing for the national anthem equates to someone hating America?

Simple … Disrespect for the country is unpatriotic.

Maybe. But that does not necessarily = “hate”.

True, but if the action is the only thing they project, they are responsible for the reaction.

Agreed. But it (kneeling) is free speech, and therefore protected, and therefore no reason to deny the rights and protections of American citizenship.

To wit: Griner’s kneeling during the anthem is not a reason for the government to decline to try and secure her release.

Nobody here is suggesting that disrespectful kneeling protesters should be denied their rights or lose their citizenship. Her rescue by the government from a foreign prison after conviction for committing a criminal act is not a citizen’s right.

[W_and_C]

@Samm

You have a very strange way of not complaining.

Welp, sometimes it helps to know meaning of words.

[Samm]

@JayJay

I disagree with the notion that kneeling for the National Anthem is disrespecting the country.

I believe to think that is symbol worship, not a true assessment of respect/disrespect.

You are seriously confused. Showing respect for what the flag stands for by following the rituals of flag etiquette is not worship, it is a display of patriotism to the county. That you think that is a religious act suggests that you know little about either patriotism or religion.

[Nemesis]

@Samm

@Nemesis

@Conservative_frk

By the same token, what does kneeling during the National Anthem at a sporting event actually do other than irritate a portion of the people witnessing it?

Its all just posturing. There is no need to play the anthem at sporting events unless its an international event.

Like I said earlier we dont play the anthem before a movie, concert, opera, play etc so why sporting events?

Why not? Is there anything wrong with it? Do you have a list of places and/or events where you feel that the anthem should not be played and/or the flag flown?

Its ■■■■■■■ stupid. Like I said we do not do it at any other event so why sports?

As for disrespecting America, well you could say that anyone who breaks a law whether its speeding or murder is disrespecting America and therefore not patriotic. What about those who have not paid their taxes? Is that unpatriotic?

Of course those examples are ludicrous just like standing for the flag does not automatically make you a patriot.

[Samm]

@Nemesis

Its ■■■■■■■ stupid. Like I said we do not do it at any other event so why sports?

Did you miss my post where I said “why not”?

[Samm]

@Nemesis

As for disrespecting America, well you could say that anyone who breaks a law whether its speeding or murder is disrespecting America and therefore not patriotic. What about those who have not paid their taxes? Is that unpatriotic?

Of course those examples are ludicrous just like standing for the flag does not automatically make you a patriot.

There is no correlation between laws and patriotism.

Nobody is suggesting that standing for the flag makes one a patriot. But it makes you respectful whether you are patriotic or not.

[WuWei]

There isn’t.

[STODR]

@Nemesis

Its ■■■■■■■ stupid. Like I said we do not do it at any other event so why sports?

Why does it matter where it is played? Why is it ■■■■■■■ stupid?

[LucyT]

@Nemesis

Its all just posturing. There is no need to play the anthem at sporting events unless its an international event.

Like I said earlier we dont play the anthem before a movie, concert, opera, play etc so why sporting events?

Federal Tax Subsidies for Sports Stadiums

The US Federal government has provided $3.7B in tax subsidies for private sports stadiums, according to a Brookings Institute study.

When the buildings are subsidized by the US government, it is appropriate to show thanks by standing.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

Well…that is a unique take that I haven’t seen before. So kudos for that.