This in response to a post where I said recounts have only ever changed at most a hundred votes or so.
It’s like posts aren’t even being read.
This in response to a post where I said recounts have only ever changed at most a hundred votes or so.
It’s like posts aren’t even being read.
Under the Constitution, the President is elected by electors selected by each state legislature, and the electors vote on December 14. If a ticket gets a majority of the votes, then there will be a President-Elect. Otherwise the House of Representatives votes to decide the President and the Senate selects the Vice President. Until then there is a “media favorite” or a “presumed President-Elect”.
For years without a contested election results, the distinction is a fine point that makes no real difference. On the other hand, this year still has multiple contested state results, and several states with very close races are still have a substantial number of votes to count. As in 2000 and 2016, challenges and recounts are likely to occur until at least December 8, which is the “safe harbor” day to resolve disputes.
Everybody here knows this. States were not projected as wins by the media until results from election officials showed an insurmountable lead.
Bill.in.PA:Under the Constitution, the President is elected by electors selected by each state legislature, and the electors vote on December 14. If a ticket gets a majority of the votes, then there will be a President-Elect. Otherwise the House of Representatives votes to decide the President and the Senate selects the Vice President. Until then there is a “media favorite” or a “presumed President-Elect”.
For years without a contested election results, the distinction is a fine point that makes no real difference. On the other hand, this year still has multiple contested state results, and several states with very close races are still have a substantial number of votes to count. As in 2000 and 2016, challenges and recounts are likely to occur until at least December 8, which is the “safe harbor” day to resolve disputes.
Everybody here knows this. States were not projected as wins by the media until results from election officials showed an insurmountable lead.
Which is why Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia, ME-2 and Alaska have not been called yet.
Well Fox and AP called Arizona…and were probably sweating for a while but it looks like Biden might sneak by.
And ME-2 I believe has been called by almost everyone except CNN.
mobiusptc: JayJay: Bill.in.PA:The Minnesota senate election of 2016 was decided by a recount. That vote was the deciding vote to pass Obama Care.
2008 you mean…and the initial difference was 215 votes.
There will be no difference that small in the Presidential race.
math. republican are not that good at it.
This in response to a post where I said recounts have only ever changed at most a hundred votes or so.
It’s like posts aren’t even being read.
i read it, was riffing off rove "republican math " ;p as in somehow republicans think that an instance where 200ish vote will occur with an instance with thousands of votes.
There are still plenty of votes that have not been counted. Nor have there been any recounts.
This is the first election where so many of votes were by mail. This is also the first election that I know of where a “glitch” the software used 30 states moved a sizable number of votes from one candidate to the other.
It ain’t over till its over.
There are still plenty of votes that have not been counted. Nor have there been any recounts.
This is the first election where so many of votes were by mail. This the first election that I know of where a “glitch” the software used 30 states moved a sizable number of votes from one candidate to the other.
It ain’t over till its over.
Trump has not even ponied up the money for Wisconsin recount his campaign called for. shows how serious they are about that one…
You’re right. His Malignancy might still nuke Iran, marry Ivanka in a moonie mass wedding, or test out the 5th Avenue shooting theory.
FloridaYankee: Bill.in.PA:Under the Constitution, the President is elected by electors selected by each state legislature, and the electors vote on December 14. If a ticket gets a majority of the votes, then there will be a President-Elect. Otherwise the House of Representatives votes to decide the President and the Senate selects the Vice President. Until then there is a “media favorite” or a “presumed President-Elect”.
For years without a contested election results, the distinction is a fine point that makes no real difference. On the other hand, this year still has multiple contested state results, and several states with very close races are still have a substantial number of votes to count. As in 2000 and 2016, challenges and recounts are likely to occur until at least December 8, which is the “safe harbor” day to resolve disputes.
Everybody here knows this. States were not projected as wins by the media until results from election officials showed an insurmountable lead.
Which is why Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia, ME-2 and Alaska have not been called yet.
Well Fox and AP called Arizona…and were probably sweating for a while but it looks like Biden might sneak by.
And ME-2 I believe has been called by almost everyone except CNN.
Sweating indeed. That was a gaffe to call it that early. The stakes are way too high for that ■■■■■
There are still plenty of votes that have not been counted. Nor have there been any recounts.
This is the first election where so many of votes were by mail. This is also the first election that I know of where a “glitch” the software used 30 states moved a sizable number of votes from one candidate to the other.
It ain’t over till its over.
No votes were moved from one candidate to another. It was improperly reported, nothing more. You know this.
There are still plenty of votes that have not been counted. Nor have there been any recounts.
Every election in my lifetime was called long before all of the votes were counted. That’s how it works.
The call has never been wrong, so far.
This is the first election where so many of votes were by mail. This is also the first election that I know of where a “glitch” the software used 30 states moved a sizable number of votes from one candidate to the other.
Was it a glitch in the software, or human error?
If you want to hold out hope, so be it. But it will hurt more, in the end.
Bill.in.PA:There are still plenty of votes that have not been counted. Nor have there been any recounts.
This is the first election where so many of votes were by mail. This is also the first election that I know of where a “glitch” the software used 30 states moved a sizable number of votes from one candidate to the other.
It ain’t over till its over.
No votes were moved from one candidate to another. It was improperly reported, nothing more. You know this.
I think he spends all his time in the Conservative Unreality Bubble. Never seen him post from even as mainstream a source as FoxNews.
So to be fair, he might not know it was a reporting error and not a tabulation error because these things circulate in the CEC blogosphere forever.
I want to know who BigFoot voted for. That’s the real story noone is talking about.
Technically, he can’t - you can’t ask for a recount until after the vote count is finalized.
I suspect he won’t even bother. It’ll cost him a lot of money to ask for recounts.
2016 was a tantrum. 2000 was more complicated, but still ended up working out just as it was called immediately after the election.
Umm, forget the networks called if for Gore initially?
From The Florida Recount Of 2000: A Nightmare That Goes On Haunting : NPR
By 8 p.m. ET on their election night specials, the national networks were calling populous swing states such as Pennsylvania and Michigan for Gore.
Taken together with Florida, those states triggered the network’s computer programs to conclude Gore would win the Electoral College. Viewers around the country would soon see Gore’s face on screen as the projected winner of the presidency. Celebrations began in Democratic headquarters everywhere.
Umm, forget the networks called if for Gore initially?
…for an hour or so. By 10pm EST on election day, they had all rescinded the call.
No networks finalized their calls for the election for Gore - just Florida.
I think all Americans (who aren’t Trump sycophants) are in favor of counting each and every single legal vote.
Trump, in a fantanstic display of the opposite of patriotism, has filed around 40 law suits this election season, all of which depend upon NOT counting votes or only counting votes that benefit him.
What does that say about his view of democracy?
Define “contested.”
Hint: “contested” isn’t a thing just because Q and Trump say it is.
I think all Americans (who aren’t Trump sycophants) are in favor of counting each and every single legal vote.
Trump, in a fantanstic display of the opposite of patriotism, has filed around 40 law suits this election season, all of which depend upon NOT counting votes or only counting votes that benefit him.
What does that say about his view of democracy?
Well it shows Democrats are crooks or something.
The Reality TV Con Man is the only honest one in Washington…everyone else is corrupt to the bone…
The bottom line is literally this:
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I think all Americans (who aren’t Trump sycophants) are in favor of counting each and every single legal vote.
Trump, in a fantanstic display of the opposite of patriotism, has filed around 40 law suits this election season, all of which depend upon NOT counting votes or only counting votes that benefit him.
What does that say about his view of democracy?
Pretty sure you are aware that his objection is to counting illegal as opposed to legal votes. Non postmarked ballots deemed to be postmarked, that sort of thing.