Breaking news. Cleveland Indians to change their name

Tom_Ch · 2020-12-16T21:21:18.648Z

Janet_Miller:

Does any of this name changing—elimination of indigenous tribal names from sports teams, African American for black American, developmentally disabled for mentally retarded—actually solve any problems?

Or is it just more feel good bs? I sense it’s the latter.

Irony is, many of those it’s supposed to make feel good oppose it:

Large Majorities Dislike Political Correctness - The Atlantic

It might not. But it’s a good start to treat them with more respect. Do you have problem with not being able to call disabled people retarded? It’s not a law. So don’t worry. No one will go to jail for using it.

Samm · 2020-12-16T21:40:10.176Z

biggestal99:

Samm:

What’s racist about it? It’s a ridiculous caricature, but that does not make it racist. It represents neither prejudice nor antagonism toward the Indians that is meant to portray. Words have meaning, and when they are misused, as you have done, it leads to the word having no substance. If everything that offends one is called racist, then we are all racists.

So sambo is a okay in your book, not racist at all…

Please spare me.

Allan

Ah … Little Black Sambo was Indian … East Indian. And there is nothing racist about the story of Sambo. He is the hero of that tale.

And just because there are some racist caricatures, does not make all caricatures racist. One has to look at what is behind the image, not just the image itself. And more important, one has to use the actual definition of racism rather than one they made up themselves.

Samm · 2020-12-16T21:43:25.149Z

PurpnGold:

Samm:

Interesting that you don’t know the history of your people in America.

Oh I do… I was just unfamiliar with the oppression piece and genocide piece…

As I said.

Samm · 2020-12-16T21:46:40.627Z

PurpnGold:

Janet_Miller:

Um, no. I don’t slur anyone

Welcome to woke town!

You are not welcome to your own definition of woke either.

WuWei · 2020-12-16T22:01:44.613Z

PurpnGold:

WuWei:

It is perfectly acceptable, a duty, to slur whites. Especially males.

If you say so

Critical Theory says so.

PurpnGold · 2020-12-16T22:28:54.757Z

Samm:

You are not welcome to your own definition of woke either.

Is it not “woke!!” To call colored people African Americans or black people?

Janet_Miller · 2020-12-16T22:39:26.516Z

What exactly are you talking about?

I have never on any occasion referred to the physically disabled as retarded.

Do you even have any idea what retarded means? It means to delayed, ex. retarding food spoilage or in French «etre en retard » to be late.

What is the problem with saying someone is mentally delayed? It sounds a hell of a lot less hopeless than “developmentally disabled”.

Mountain_Soldier · 2020-12-16T23:15:53.869Z

I think they should become the Cleveland Redskins.

Samm · 2020-12-17T01:09:55.676Z

PurpnGold:

Samm:

You are not welcome to your own definition of woke either.

Is it not “woke!!” To call colored people African Americans or black people?

Its not woke to call them anything if that’s your standard. Well other than melanin enhanced humans, that is.

PurpnGold · 2020-12-17T01:19:41.410Z

Samm:

Its not woke to call them anything if that’s your standard. Well other than melanin enhanced humans, that is.

Glad we can agree that everyone is woke!!! About something

Samm · 2020-12-17T01:22:38.688Z

Its just like claiming everything is racist … if everything is woke, nothing is.

Tom_Ch · 2020-12-17T01:36:26.002Z

Janet_Miller:

What exactly are you talking about?

I have never on any occasion referred to the physically disabled as retarded.

Do you even have any idea what retarded means? It means to delayed, ex. retarding food spoilage or in French «etre en retard » to be late.

What is the problem with saying someone is mentally delayed? It sounds a hell of a lot less hopeless than “developmentally disabled”.

You used the word retarded in your comment. You asked why the word can’t be used to describe someone with mentally delayed. Stand by your statement or admit you were wrong.

PurpnGold · 2020-12-17T01:46:47.819Z

Samm:

Its just like claiming everything is racist … if everything is woke, nothing is.

I didn’t say everything was woke!!!.. I said we are all woke!!! about something.

There is a difference

Samm · 2020-12-17T01:49:49.832Z

Sure, whatever, but “colored people” for example is no different than “people of color.” They mean exactly the same thing … except to you wokes. The whole concept of woke has become absurd, just like all the ridiculous accusations of racism.

PurpnGold · 2020-12-17T02:44:52.244Z

Samm:

The whole concept of woke has become absurd, just like all the ridiculous accusations of racism.

And yet you are also woke!!!..

Axxowiz · 2020-12-17T04:44:04.419Z

I have to give credit where credit is due. The Democratic Party has found a way to convince swathes of voters that words mean or outweigh actions. I have to hand it to them because they get things done by governing by virtue signaling instead of any meaningful policies that could
help some of the communities who feel marginalized.

It’s much easier and cheaper to rip down statues, be for gender pronouns, be against so-called hate speech, rename a street, protest against a teams name than it is to actually implement something that has any meaningful positive impact for these communities. I am 38 but old enough to remember the long standing phrase “Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me.

Seems like everything from the left in the past decade is all about language and no action. Smart but imho harmful to society, especially those younger in college who don’t even know what an opposing view is or stroked a cat in a safe room while a conservative speaker was speaking.

Unfortunately after college and they go into the workforce reality of how the world realty works will be brutal awakening.

Samm · 2020-12-17T07:39:57.771Z

PurpnGold:

Samm:

The whole concept of woke has become absurd, just like all the ridiculous accusations of racism.

And yet you are also woke!!!..

Meaningless. Why not just call me a racist and get it over with.

PurpnGold · 2020-12-17T08:12:35.611Z

Samm:

Meaningless. Why not just call me a racist and get it over with.

I would not call you that.

But you are definitely a part of the “woke!!! Club” ™

Samm · 2020-12-17T08:40:38.888Z

There is no difference … neither word has any true meaning anymore. You labelers have over used both of them into oblivion.

biggestal99 · 2020-12-17T09:48:39.648Z

WuWei:

Critical Theory says so

Why? Because you subscribe to a theory, everyone does?

I personally do not along with millions of others. What makes critical theory so believable to you?

Allan