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All former political leaders are normal citizens now. That’s why third world dictators like to go after them. They are easy prey. Like Batista.
It doesnt bother you that because he got a small percentage fewer recorded votes, he is the criminal instead of the El Presidente?

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He has been facing numerous charges for a while unrelated to Lula becoming president.

While I agree it is tricky to extradite him, it is also tricky to hold on to a criminally indicted Brazillian ex-president and allow him to essentially become a permanent resident of the U.S.

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If any of the charges can be shown to be political, that would be the definition of asylum.

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I assume that Bolsanaro would go that route and he may be able to wait here for quite some time while thats being sorted out by the courts.

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Its funny that this is coming up because we have the more complicated case of Rep. Santos facing potential criminal fraud charges in Brazil. Should he get extradited to Brazil? Or get off the hook because he is a representative and a US citizen?

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Do any of the charges in Brazil derive from his being a representative in the US or are they independent of it?

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…

Santos reportedly entered a small clothing store in Niterói, a city outside Rio de Janeiro, shortly before his 20th birthday in 2008 and spent almost $700 using a stolen checkbook and a fake name, according to court records.

He admitted to the shop owner that he committed fraud in August 2009 and wrote on a social media website that he knows he “screwed up” but wants to pay. He and his mother told police the next year that he stole the checkbook from a man that the mother formerly worked for, the Times reported.

A judge approved a charge against Santos in September 2011 and ordered Santos to respond, but he was in the United States by October and he ignored it.

As has been the case with his many lies, Santos previously denied that any criminal charge had been filed against him in Brazil in an interview with the New York Post last week, saying, “I am not a criminal here — not here or in Brazil or any jurisdiction in the world,” he said. “Absolutely not. That didn’t happen.” Unfortunately, the charge proved to be all too real and now extradition to Brazil may be in his future.

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I wonder what his Visa says.

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It is consistent in the oddity style.

Like a verbal head fake.

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Too bad. Security would have held the door for him at a SF Walgreens.

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Actually, I don’t think he is. I can’t find anything about them.

As an aside, we sure got the wrong end of the stick on this one. After losing, Trump should have sought refuge with Bolsinaro, not the other way around.

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A-1 which is for foreign government officials and was given to him while he still retained power. Now that he is an ordinary citizen the State department could choose at some point to revoke that A-1 status. At which point I would imagine he might seek asylum if he is facing extradition to Brazil on criminal charges. The whole thing would likely take quite a while.

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Now that he no longer is in power and can’t claim presidential immunity he is likely facing a number of charges.

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Despite his assertions, Mr. Bolsonaro and his inner circle have faced investigations on accusations including the embezzlement of public funds, theft of staff wages and mishandling of the Covid-19 pandemic. The inquiries had been staved off or blocked so far, given his political influence and presidential immunity.

But that may change now that Mr. Bolsonaro lost Sunday’s presidential election.

“After leaving office, there is no immunity, none, for crimes committed by a former president in Brazil,” said Eloísa Machado, a law professor at Fundação Getulio Vargas, a university and research organization in São Paulo, Brazil.

Brazilian law leaves less room for interpretation on the issue than in the United States, where former President Donald J. Trump’s assertions of presidential immunity have helped him maneuver around investigations and lawsuits.

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Sure, but he hasn’t been charged yet. Right now, he is on vacation and is no sort of refugee.

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Yes true. The transfer of power just took place on the 1st. Bolsanaro blocked charges while he was in power. There are calls for him to be ejected from the US. But you’re right- he has not been charged as of yet.

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Because tRuMp

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I really thought I was going to like that one.

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Meh- because most governments care about big events like this, whether it was happening in Myanmar, India, Ukraine, etc. For example:

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Biden and his Mexican and Canadian counterparts released a joint statement pledging to support the recently elected leader of the country, whose predecessor has fueled doubts about his legitimacy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-canada-mexico-slam-brazil-unrest-amid-questions-on-bolsonaro-s-florida-stay/ar-AA168AQv

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Are you a government?

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No- are you?