Breaking: Jeffrey Epstein arrested in New York, charged with sex trafficking

McVeigh supported libertarian candidates.

Which allegedly is the epitome of conservatism

Libertarianism is a political philosophy prioritizing maximum individual liberty, self-ownership, and minimal state intervention. Core principles include voluntary association, strong property rights, and the non-aggression principle. It advocates for free-market capitalism, limited government, and high personal freedom in social issues.

Which of these are not in agreement with your style of conservatism?

You would be wrong. Libertarians support parts of both parties.
There is really no need to try and lump them with any party. They vote both ways depending on the voter and what is most important to them. In fact many times they even get to vote for the libertarian candidate.
What’s is really telling about your post is your need to not tell the whole truth.

I am not wrong because you think the spectrum is linear. But it’s not. It’s a Venn diagram. You are telling me i am wrong from your binary world of either/or but that’s not how the world works.

Libertarians are conservatives.

You are of course doing what i said you do - the no true conservative nonsense.

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Let’s play a fun game. Name one aspect of libertarianism with which you disagree?

That’s complete nonsense. The only similarity is that both libertarians and conservative s favor limited government.

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Open borders.

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No it’s not. I cited it. Which part do you disagree with

But anti globalist but that’s a good one. Libertarianism is the least mature version of conservatism its idealism. But it’s still conservatism in a lot of ways. Trying to paint Timothy Mcveigh is something outside of conservism bevause of his libertarianism is silly nonsense. Not that you did that

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I just think of libertarianism as fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Limited government + freedom for all as long as they don’t harm others. We get painted as fence riders, but I honestly only see micro differences in Democrats and Republicans, not macro. These micro differences are usually in the form of slogans or platitudes not backed up by actions (votes). Both parties love their spending for whatever.

Everything else besides what I stated is similar. And your citation backs me up.

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Tons of examples out there of the DoJ redacting email senders names talking about young girls
Massie demanding answers.

Is there anyone who traveled with Jeffery more often than Donald?

How many of those flights were to his island?

1993-98, Marla Maples (divorced in '99), son Eric (born in '84) 20-yr-old (woman?) … where’s the smoking gun?

They won’t answer that. There apparently isn’t anyone on their side mentioned at all. It’s all Trump and only Trump. :joy:

Such a sad little life these people have.

Just being on his plane that much is a problem. It’s safe to assume at least 1 of those flights was to his island. But Epstein didn’t limit his pedo behavior to the island.

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What celebrity or political figure has been on his plane more than Trump?

Has Epstein spent more time at someone else’s property like he did Mar a lago?

Is Trumps relationship with Epstein at all problematic for you?

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Why is it “safe” to assume that? He didn’t even buy the Island until 1998.

You realize that rich people own airplanes so they don’t have to fly commercial, right? And there is absolutely nothing unusual about other rich and famous people they know coming along for the ride. There is no indication in that statement to indicate that any nefarious activity was involved in any trip Trump was on. It’s just your wishful thinking that is safe to assume.

Considering that Trump dumped him in 2003 when he started acting creepy around young women at Mar Lago, what problem are you seeing?

Is Bill and Hillary Clinton’s relationship with Epstein problematic for you?

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That was the point of asking about the logs.

The email, written in January 2020 by an unidentified federal prosecutor in Manhattan, noted that Mr. Trump was listed as a passenger on Mr. Epstein’s jet at least eight times from 1993 to 1996,

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/23/us/politics/trump-epstein-jet-flights.html