BREAKING: EU approves ban on fossil fuel cars beginning 2035

[Samm]

@TheRedComet

Only thing futuristic is the power train. I’ll give Musk some credit on that. It makes disgusting power with the 3 motor model. 850 horses.

But God the design is just downright dreadful. That’s a problem with all Teslas. The cybertruck looks stupid while stuff like the Model 3 is so boring that I would rather shoot myself than drive around in one.

They can’t find that happy medium between those two extremes. By comparison, Ford’s Mach E is actually an attractive SUV with a well laid out interior and good build quality.

Yeah, they are all designed in the same wind tunnel so they come out looking like Ford Escorts,

[conan]

@Imel

Yes of course was going to mention that in my reply but the point is private business are providing their customers with this service, it is not funded by the taxpayers.

Out here in Seattle area they’re doing it here…without any government funding. Way it should be done IMO.

[Samm]

@Imel

Yes of course was going to mention that in my reply but the point is private business are providing their customers with this service, it is not funded by the taxpayers.
Supermarkets, hotels, banks all have them as standard so i guess if the customers want it private companies will supply as well as public stations.

The Government of Ireland is spending 100 million Euros (of public money) on charging stations. Private businesses are reimbursed to install them.

Government to spend €100m on public EV charging by 2025.

[Imel]

Yes like i say in mist supermarkets there are about 5-10 charging bays.and it looks like a giant plug nothing too complicate.
I agree that taxpayers shouldn’t foot the bill.
Quite happy with my honda crv.

[Imel]

For people who drive evs they are replacing gas stations and some of that funding is ultimately provided by the eu.
Even without public stations most private places have them.
I guess if they become popular enough the US will do the same so long journeys are possible.

[Smyrna]

@conan

More.

The electric car buyers who do so to be "V"irtuous…are ignorant to the truth about they’re doing more damage to what they’re attempting to help by going electric. There should be videos played of the African children being used to mine cobalt and the health damage being done to them as a result.

[Smyrna]

@Samm

What the world needs is a $10-20,000 EV with a 300+ mile range. City drivers would snatch them up.

…that would be a used 2021 Chevrolet Bolt with less than 30k on it and the range is around 240. Come see me and I’ll leave the light on for ya.

[Smyrna]

@Ombudsman

I am not a scientist so difficult for me to just work this out myself, but if I take a look at a bunch or sources from a variety of perspectives, it appears that electric cars have a higher landed carbon footprint than gas cars, but at about 15,000 miles they break even and have a lower carbon footprint from there on.

It is not whether we are going to transition from gas to electric.

It is how quickly and whether it will end up being 70% or 80% or 90% electric in the long run.

It is just math.

When do the batteries need replacement? What’s the cost? What’s the value of your car at that time? Are you ready? They’re worth less…resulting in the creation of junk at a record pace and the disposal of those batteries is the biggest problem of all. Where do you see that data in your chart?

[Toll_Collector]

@Imel

Well in Ireland charging stations are everywhere in public and private businesses.
The supermarket public roads, hotels bars etc.
They are just another service provided by businesses as an extra to their customers.

That’s the first step. The next step is improving the charging speeds.

Here in the US, it won’t be as easy to put up charging stations. We don’t build things unless we know there’s a demand for them. Supermarkets, bars, hotels, will only do it if there is the need. They’ll most likely charge you for it too.

[Toll_Collector]

@Samm

Elon Musk says the Cybertruck “looks like the future.”

It looks like a vehicle straight out of Mad Max. So yeah, I guess that’s futuristic.

[Toll_Collector]

@Imel

For people who drive evs they are replacing gas stations and some of that funding is ultimately provided by the eu.
Even without public stations most private places have them.
I guess if they become popular enough the US will do the same so long journeys are possible.

Right now in the US. it isn’t even close. Long journeys are stressful, and your entire trip is planned around your vehicle. That’s not going to change until a lot more people start buying EVs. Otherwise the infrastructure isn’t changing.

[Impenitent]

I wonder how fast these new battery run Porsches will be…

[Smyrna]

@Impenitent

I wonder how fast these new battery run Porsches will be…

Electric…is FAST! The acceleration is what I’d describe as violent.

[gooddad409]

@Toll_Collector

@Imel

Well in Ireland charging stations are everywhere in public and private businesses.
The supermarket public roads, hotels bars etc.
They are just another service provided by businesses as an extra to their customers.

That’s the first step. The next step is improving the charging speeds.

Here in the US, it won’t be as easy to put up charging stations. We don’t build things unless we know there’s a demand for them. Supermarkets, bars, hotels, will only do it if there is the need. They’ll most likely charge you for it too.

There’s only a half dozen or so charging stations in my county (all tesla charging) .

150,000 in the county.

[gooddad409]

@Imel

For people who drive evs they are replacing gas stations and some of that funding is ultimately provided by the eu.
Even without public stations most private places have them.
I guess if they become popular enough the US will do the same so long journeys are possible.

Long journeys are easily doable for me and my gas powered Buick.

I can easily drive cross country with a 5 minute stop for gas here and there.

[Toll_Collector]

@gooddad409

@Imel

For people who drive evs they are replacing gas stations and some of that funding is ultimately provided by the eu.
Even without public stations most private places have them.
I guess if they become popular enough the US will do the same so long journeys are possible.

Long journeys are easily doable for me and my gas powered Buick.

I can easily drive cross country with a 5 minute stop for gas here and there.

Not only that, you don’t even think about your vehicle. A 5 minute delay if you need gas. With an EV, you’re entire day revolves around your EV.

[gooddad409]

@Toll_Collector

@gooddad409

@Imel

For people who drive evs they are replacing gas stations and some of that funding is ultimately provided by the eu.
Even without public stations most private places have them.
I guess if they become popular enough the US will do the same so long journeys are possible.

Long journeys are easily doable for me and my gas powered Buick.

I can easily drive cross country with a 5 minute stop for gas here and there.

Not only that, you don’t even think about your vehicle. A 5 minute delay if you need gas. With an EV, you’re entire day revolves around your EV.

That’s right! They are only good as a very expensive commuter car.

Something that is worthless to me.

[WuWei]

@gooddad409

@RTchoke

@Imel

Well in Ireland charging stations are everywhere in public and private businesses.
The supermarket public roads, hotels bars etc.
They are just another service provided by businesses as an extra to their customers.

You do know the difference in size between our two countries, right?

One of the big differences between the US and the UK is if they try that nation wide mandate here Americans would tell them to stick it where the sun doesn’t shine.

Citizens v subjects

[WuWei]

So what you claimed was not true.

[WuWei]

@Toll_Collector

With an EV, you’re entire day revolves around your EV.

Virtue signaling is tough.