Boebert and Omar/Terrorist with Backpack Question

PurpnGold · 2021-12-04T22:08:53.995Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

I told you . You chose to ignore my answer. The comparison was with the amount of control the government exercises to keep people healthy.

We do it with cigarettes, alcohol, food etc. government controls plenty of activities meant to keep us safe. Seatbelt laws are another.

However preventing a highly transmittable disease from spreading to others is much different than cancer.

You don’t have to defend Greenes stupid post.

PurpnGold · 2021-12-04T22:09:56.704Z

Now this is the point where we have moved to a red herring because you tried to defend a stupid tweet.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-12-04T22:47:53.798Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

Call_me_Ishmael:

What did she say that was incorrect? Be specific.

Is cancer contagious/transmittable in the way Covid is ?

I’m not sure you see the right parallel. Let me help you.

The relevant question is this:

Should the government control what we eat and drink and smoke and all other aspects of our life so as to minimize cancer?

Counterpoint: does her analogy fail because cancer isn’t contagious?

WuWei · 2021-12-04T22:55:58.854Z

PurpnGold:

We do it with cigarettes, alcohol, food etc. government controls plenty of activities meant to keep us safe. Seatbelt laws are another.

Is that the purview of “government”? To “keep us safe”?

W_and_C · 2021-12-04T23:20:32.048Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

Call_me_Ishmael:

What did she say that was incorrect? Be specific.

Is cancer contagious/transmittable in the way Covid is ?

I’m not sure you see the right parallel. Let me help you.

The relevant question is this:

Should the government control what we eat and drink and smoke and all other aspects of our life so as to minimize cancer?

Yes, to a degree - and they do. Do FDA and EPA not test for carcinogens ?

https://www.epa.gov/fera/risk-assessment-carcinogenic-effects

Call_me_Ishmael · 2021-12-04T23:27:18.511Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

Counterpoint: does her analogy fail because cancer isn’t contagious?

Contagion of an illness is one-way to get sick. Eating carcinogens is another way.
Let’s call these two ways “two ways to get sick”.

See… her comparison pertains to “two ways to get sick” and the extreme lengths the government goes or doesn’t go to prevent anyone from getting sick through either of the “two ways”. It is going to extreme freedom limiting lengths with the contagion but doesn’t go to extreme freedom limiting lengths with carcinogens.

I’m done explaining the relevance and correctness of her words. She is correct and relevant.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-12-04T23:44:30.956Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

Supreme_War_Pig:

Counterpoint: does her analogy fail because cancer isn’t contagious?

Contagion of an illness is one-way to get sick. Eating carcinogens is another way.
Let’s call these two ways “two ways to get sick”.

See… her comparison pertains to “two ways to get sick” and the extreme lengths the government goes or doesn’t go to prevent anyone from getting sick through either of the “two ways”. It is going to extreme freedom limiting lengths with the contagion but doesn’t go to extreme freedom limiting lengths with carcinogens.

I’m done explaining the relevance and correctness of her words. She is correct and relevant.

Maybe. But given that she doesn’t reference any of this, and focuses instead on the death rate only, the reasonable inference is that she is comparing apples to oranges.

Analogy fail.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2021-12-04T23:51:14.592Z

Death rate is indeed relevant. That is exactly why hers is an apples to apples compare/contrast statement.

Long time ago I’ve seen SAT and GRE exercises ask for the test taker to identify what is being compared and contrasted. I did well in such tests. How about you?

PurpnGold · 2021-12-04T23:51:21.595Z

WuWei:

Is that the purview of “government”? To “keep us safe”?

One could argue it is one of their only functions…

Call_me_Ishmael · 2021-12-04T23:53:21.223Z

PurpnGold:

One could argue it is one of their only functions…

Only when the enemy is a foreign power.

tnt · 2021-12-04T23:55:44.747Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

I’m not sure you see the right parallel. Let me help you.

The relevant question is this:

Should the government control what we eat and drink and smoke and all other aspects of our life so as to minimize cancer?

Yes.

And they do.

There is a reason your food doesn’t have cancer causing additives. Like Red Dye #5.

That reason is the government.

tnt · 2021-12-04T23:58:03.874Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

The comparison wasn’t with how contagious one illness is or isn’t. It was with the level of control and loss of freedom that the government imposes in order to keep people from getting sick.

Duh.

We are not free to put RoundUp in food we sell to the public.

We are not free to use cancer causing additives in out food.

We are not free to buy many drugs.

This is not new.

Sknyluv · 2021-12-05T00:01:42.163Z

Imagine the reaction if Omar posted this with her family. Y’all’s heads would explode.

twitter.com

Thomas Massie

@RepThomasMassie

Merry Christmas! 🎄 ps. Santa, please bring ammo. 🎁 https://t.co/NVawULhCNr

6:22 PM - 4 Dec 2021 77K 12K

tnt · 2021-12-05T00:02:55.448Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

Contagion of an illness is one-way to get sick. Eating carcinogens is another way.
Let’s call these two ways “two ways to get sick”.

See… her comparison pertains to “two ways to get sick” and the extreme lengths the government goes or doesn’t go to prevent anyone from getting sick through either of the “two ways”. It is going to extreme freedom limiting lengths with the contagion but doesn’t go to extreme freedom limiting lengths with carcinogens.

I’m done explaining the relevance and correctness of her words. She is correct and relevant.

Let’s try it this way -
Would you or Greene care to guess what the cancer deaths per your would be if the government didn’t:

Regulat the cage you can buy cigarettes, and heavy tax them
Regulate additives in food found to be cancerous
Regulate pesticides know to cause cancer
Regulate the discharge of toxic, cancer causing waste
Regulate additives in cosmetics know to cause cancer.

Any guess?

tnt · 2021-12-05T00:04:19.436Z

Sknyluv:

Imagine the reaction is Omar posted this with her family. Y’all’s heads would explode.

x.com

What a bunch of ■■■■■■■ ■■■■■■■■■

What sort of god is it that they worship, that on his birthday they brandish their guns?

SeaManatee · 2021-12-05T00:07:47.917Z

Santa better get it in writing that he’s allowed to enter the house.

Edit: even then, it’s late, people get surprised.

Sknyluv · 2021-12-05T00:09:52.311Z

SeaManatee:

Santa better get it in writing that he’s allowed to enter the house.

Edit: even then, it’s late, people get surprised.

Santa. Another victim of “stand your ground” laws.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-12-05T00:25:52.372Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

Death rate is indeed relevant. That is exactly why hers is an apples to apples compare/contrast statement.

Long time ago I’ve seen SAT and GRE exercises ask for the test taker to identify what is being compared and contrasted. I did well in such tests. How about you?

I am not saying the death rate is irrelevant, I am saying that is not the intention of her post.

She references death rates, and then proceeds to shut downs; the implication is that we didn’t shut down for these deaths, so why should we shut down for those deaths?

And that’s where the analogy fails, because she fails to take into account the different circumstances around the deaths.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-12-05T00:26:32.515Z

SeaManatee:

Santa better get it in writing that he’s allowed to enter the house.

Edit: even then, it’s late, people get surprised.

Magic, bro. Don’t forget Santa’s magic

WuWei · 2021-12-05T00:45:35.544Z

PurpnGold:

WuWei:

Is that the purview of “government”? To “keep us safe”?

One could argue it is one of their only functions…

One what?