Bipartisan SENATE report details Trump campaign contacts with Russia in 2016

[toreyj01]

@Apocalypto

If Jill Stein wasn’t on the ballot, trump would not be president right now.

True that, but Gary Johnson was there as well. Did he pull votes off of Trump equally? Who knows?

But the fact that the Russians felt Stein needed a boost to help Trump is problematic. I suspect that they intend to do similar things with Kanye. Shame he is such a loon that he allows this.

[Jezcoe]

@toreyj01

@Apocalypto

If Jill Stein wasn’t on the ballot, trump would not be president right now.

True that, but Gary Johnson was there as well. Did he pull votes off of Trump equally? Who knows?

But the fact that the Russians felt Stein needed a boost to help Trump is problematic. I suspect that they intend to do similar things with Kanye. Shame he is such a loon that he allows this.

I don’t think that Kanye has been able to actually get on the ballot anywhere.

[toreyj01]

@Jezcoe

@toreyj01

@Apocalypto

If Jill Stein wasn’t on the ballot, trump would not be president right now.

True that, but Gary Johnson was there as well. Did he pull votes off of Trump equally? Who knows?

But the fact that the Russians felt Stein needed a boost to help Trump is problematic. I suspect that they intend to do similar things with Kanye. Shame he is such a loon that he allows this.

I don’t think that Kanye has been able to actually get on the ballot anywhere.

He is on the ballot in Colorado, Oklahoma and Vermont.

There are 17 other states he can still get on the ballot, Utah is now considering his application. Ohio is another state he is targeting.

Strangely enough, almost all of his staff are GOP delegates and staff members of Conservative PACs.

[zantax]

@toreyj01

I suppose it is not surprising that our Trump supporters here take all of this with not even a grain of salt. In for a penny, in for a pound as the old saying goes.

It just seems an odd hill to die on, though. This was a GOP led inquiry that clearly shows the coordination of the Trump campaign with GRU operatives and Russian Intelligence services.

This whole “no collusion” kerfuffle is another silly thing, collusion is always brought up by the GOP but collusion in and of itself isn’t even a crime. Democrats aren’t talking collusion, Republicans are and denying it, even though no one from the Left is making that accusation.

This is obstruction of justice, that is a crime. Perjury, that is a crime. Violation of multiple campaign laws, which are crimes.

And it doesn’t matter to those who support the President and it never will. Which, to me, is sad because there are so many good people on the Right, so many good Conservatives who have sacrificed their integrity for a man who has none, and who could honestly care less about them.

But keep at it, just keep saying “no collusion” over and over again, if it makes you feel better about what you are willing to accept and excuse. History is not going to be kind to him and the people who enabled him, but if “Liberal Tears” seem worth it, by all means continue.

You mean like the Russian operative Kilimnik?

Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel...

[Jezcoe]

@zantax

@toreyj01

I suppose it is not surprising that our Trump supporters here take all of this with not even a grain of salt. In for a penny, in for a pound as the old saying goes.

It just seems an odd hill to die on, though. This was a GOP led inquiry that clearly shows the coordination of the Trump campaign with GRU operatives and Russian Intelligence services.

This whole “no collusion” kerfuffle is another silly thing, collusion is always brought up by the GOP but collusion in and of itself isn’t even a crime. Democrats aren’t talking collusion, Republicans are and denying it, even though no one from the Left is making that accusation.

This is obstruction of justice, that is a crime. Perjury, that is a crime. Violation of multiple campaign laws, which are crimes.

And it doesn’t matter to those who support the President and it never will. Which, to me, is sad because there are so many good people on the Right, so many good Conservatives who have sacrificed their integrity for a man who has none, and who could honestly care less about them.

But keep at it, just keep saying “no collusion” over and over again, if it makes you feel better about what you are willing to accept and excuse. History is not going to be kind to him and the people who enabled him, but if “Liberal Tears” seem worth it, by all means continue.

You mean like the Russian operative Kilimnik?

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/447394-key-figure-that-mueller-report-linked-to-russia-was-a-state-department

On one hand we have the Senate intel report from a committee run by the GOP.

On the other we have John Solomon who shares lawyers with Dmitri Firtash who just happens to be an old spy buddy of Kilimnik’s

Now I am not saying that taking John Solomon’s word on anything related to this may be height of idiocy, but one might want to be mindful of who is making what claim.

[JayJay]

The people you are talking to think John Solomon is a reputable, intrepid journalist.

[Jezcoe]

@JayJay

The people you are talking to think John Solomon is a reputable, intrepid journalist.

It’s not like one can draw a direct line between Solomon and Kremlin disinfo or nothing.

[TommyLucchese]

@Jezcoe

I don’t think that Kanye has been able to actually get on the ballot anywhere.

Lol the Trump lawyers trying to get him on the ballot got caught forging wild amounts of signatures even though its ■■■■■■■ Kanye West and would have been super easy to do legitimately in a matter of days.

Trump people, they just feel compelled to do it the wrong way even when they don’t have to.

[TommyLucchese]

@toreyj01

Strangely enough, almost all of his staff are GOP delegates and staff members of Conservative PACs.

They’re straight up connected to the Trump campaign.

[Munimula1]

It t’s quite demeaning to black voters. They think black voters will vote for an unqualified psycho. Oooh wait, white voters did that the last time around.

[DougBH]

@tnt

@DougBH

I am convinced…I will not vote for Manafort.

But you will vote for a man who hired manafort? And who’s personal attorney was also in close contact with russian agents?

I doubt if Manafort told Trump that he had established a method to evade taxes. If you hire someone you do not take on guilt for illegal things they had done that they did not tell you about.
Close contact with Russian agents. If that is so, what did Cohen do in relation with them that was illegal or unethical? Remember when he was supposed to have gone to Prague to pay the hackers?

[tnt]

Manafort gave polling information to a Russian operative so that they could target their efforts to specific states.

[DougBH]

@tnt

Manafort gave polling information to a Russian operative so that they could target their efforts to specific states.

That is not what Mueller found. It is old news Manafort gave polling data to that Russian, but the report does not state why. Did the current Senate report state that it was so that they could target their efforts (whatever they were) to specific states? Could you site the location in the report?

[Munimula1]

@tnt

Manafort gave polling information to a Russian operative so that they could target their efforts to specific states.

It says so right in the Rubio-Cotton Senate Report. Black and white.

[NebraskaFootball]

@toreyj01

I suppose it is not surprising that our Trump supporters here take all of this with not even a grain of salt. In for a penny, in for a pound as the old saying goes.

It just seems an odd hill to die on, though. This was a GOP led inquiry that clearly shows the coordination of the Trump campaign with GRU operatives and Russian Intelligence services.

This whole “no collusion” kerfuffle is another silly thing, collusion is always brought up by the GOP but collusion in and of itself isn’t even a crime. Democrats aren’t talking collusion, Republicans are and denying it, even though no one from the Left is making that accusation.

This is obstruction of justice, that is a crime. Perjury, that is a crime. Violation of multiple campaign laws, which are crimes.

And it doesn’t matter to those who support the President and it never will. Which, to me, is sad because there are so many good people on the Right, so many good Conservatives who have sacrificed their integrity for a man who has none, and who could honestly care less about them.

But keep at it, just keep saying “no collusion” over and over again, if it makes you feel better about what you are willing to accept and excuse. History is not going to be kind to him and the people who enabled him, but if “Liberal Tears” seem worth it, by all means continue.

Well struck as always Torey.

It is sad as well, seeing the complete abandonment of principle and belief for one of the bedrocks of our society that conservatives and my fellow friends on the right have preached about and adhered to for so long. The rule of law. That no man is above it. And that skirting this foundational principle, especially by sleazy politicians, and doubly-so when running afoul of the law is done in conjunction with a hostile foreign enemy that attacked our nation openly and brazenly, is a line that would never be allowed crossed.

Yet for Donald Trump, they turn a blind eye. They pretend the facts are not clear as day. They minimize these outrageous actions by these men, because they have found a figurehead, a politician, whom can express all of the grievances they have built up within themselves over the years. It is highly disappointing, and you are correct. History will not be kind.

[NebraskaFootball]

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@toreyj01

I suppose it is not surprising that our Trump supporters here take all of this with not even a grain of salt. In for a penny, in for a pound as the old saying goes.

It just seems an odd hill to die on, though. This was a GOP led inquiry that clearly shows the coordination of the Trump campaign with GRU operatives and Russian Intelligence services.

This whole “no collusion” kerfuffle is another silly thing, collusion is always brought up by the GOP but collusion in and of itself isn’t even a crime. Democrats aren’t talking collusion, Republicans are and denying it, even though no one from the Left is making that accusation.

This is obstruction of justice, that is a crime. Perjury, that is a crime. Violation of multiple campaign laws, which are crimes.

And it doesn’t matter to those who support the President and it never will. Which, to me, is sad because there are so many good people on the Right, so many good Conservatives who have sacrificed their integrity for a man who has none, and who could honestly care less about them.

But keep at it, just keep saying “no collusion” over and over again, if it makes you feel better about what you are willing to accept and excuse. History is not going to be kind to him and the people who enabled him, but if “Liberal Tears” seem worth it, by all means continue.

You mean like the Russian operative Kilimnik?

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/447394-key-figure-that-mueller-report-linked-to-russia-was-a-state-department

On one hand we have the Senate intel report from a committee run by the GOP.

On the other we have John Solomon who shares lawyers with Dmitri Firtash who just happens to be an old spy buddy of Kilimnik’s

Now I am not saying that taking John Solomon’s word on anything related to this may be height of idiocy, but one might want to be mindful of who is making what claim.

At some point you would think that introspection would occur when it comes to John Solomon as a source of information. You would hope anyway. Because holy smokes has that man proven himself completely untrustworthy and a proven propagandist for Russian disinformation.

[DougBH]

@Munimula1

@tnt

Manafort gave polling information to a Russian operative so that they could target their efforts to specific states.

It says so right in the Rubio-Cotton Senate Report. Black and white.

On what page, please?

Oh dear, the Senate report doesn’t say that at all. In fact, it says that Gates thought the polling data was given in order to showcase Manafort’s work for jobs after the election. See page 136 of the report.

As you recall, Manafort was deeply involved n the politics of Ukraine…which caused Trump to fire him from the campaign.

[conan]

We have actual text message an email that FBI colluded to bring Trump down. We have actual evidence that people in Obama administration spied on Trump.

Where are their actual evidence? It’s all speculation.

[WuWei]

@wonderingrover

@NebraskaFootball

@GrandWazoo

What I get from this report is that Trump and the campaign knew that Russia was using their influence to help him win and they all knew it. And we now have some Administration members, members of Congress and Americans who support this President that are just okay with Russia’s involvement.

Exactly correct. Whatever it takes to win. They don’t care.

Quite frankly, it’s not just Trump that needs to go down in this election. Each member of his administration, each congresscritter, every single member of the GOP who enabled him, supported him, or who was supported by him needs to go down hard in this election. The possibility of any of these crooks ever regaining power again needs to be eliminated.

Great post.

[DougBH]

Well, as proof of the involvement of the GRU they do cite the indictment of the Russians whom Mueller knew would never come here and he would never have to prove his allegations. Perhaps the report should have been modified when the indictments were dropped for want of evidence.