Biden's violent crime plan

[altair1013]

@fallenturtle

So if a group of armed Americans try to overthrow the government, we’re just supposed to let them?

Wake me when anything like that happens.

[fallenturtle]

@OldandtiredX

There would also be a lot of police and others that would refuse any order to massacre thousands of American citizens.
At that point everyone no matter their occupation would be choosing sides.
And since a lot of the people in the occupations of law enforcement and in the military are conservative I’m not sure how many leftist would be left to massacre conservative American citizens for the leftist.

So in other words you’re saying if a bunch of armed left wingers tried to overthrow the government, law enforcement and military would have no problem using lethal force to stop them, but if its a bunch of armed right wingers trying to overthrow the government the law enforcement and the military would disobey orders to use lethal force to stop them and some might possibly switch sides and join them?

[altair1013]

@fallenturtle

So in other words you’re saying if a bunch of armed left wingers tried to overthrow the government,

They would lose.The right is better armed. And we’re better shots. The left doesn’t like guns.

[fallenturtle]

@altair1013

@fallenturtle

So if a group of armed Americans try to overthrow the government, we’re just supposed to let them?

Wake me when anything like that happens.

You have no opinion?

[GrandWazoo]

@gooddad409

Amazing how little libs know about background checks and buying guns.

Let me guess. You have no idea about how many Liberals own guns?

[fallenturtle]

@altair1013

@fallenturtle

So in other words you’re saying if a bunch of armed left wingers tried to overthrow the government,

They would lose.The right is better armed. And we’re better shots. The left doesn’t like guns.

There are plenty on the left into guns.

[GrandWazoo]

@WuWei

By whom?

FBI data reported by the AP.

[altair1013]

@fallenturtle

You have no opinion?

Yes. My opinion is it would take hundreds of thousands of highly organized people to do this. And that will never happen. It can’t be done by a couple hundred unarmed nit wits running amok in the capitol for two hours.

[altair1013]

@fallenturtle

There are plenty on the left into guns.

Really? The same people who want to ban AR-15’s also own large numbers of AR-15’s?

Who knew?

[fallenturtle]

@altair1013

@fallenturtle

You have no opinion?

Yes. My opinion is it would take hundreds of thousands of highly organized people to do this. And that will never happen. It can’t be done by a couple hundred unarmed nit wits running amok in the capitol for two hours.

So you don’t subscribe to the idea that one of the purposes of the 2nd amendment is to arm citizens so they can overthrow a “tyrannical” government?

[WuWei]

@GrandWazoo

@WuWei

By whom?

FBI data reported by the AP.

Thank you.

[altair1013]

@fallenturtle

So you don’t subscribe to the idea that one of the purposes of the 2nd amendment is to arm citizens so they can overthrow a “tyrannical” government?

I do. But I also think that the government knows they cannot fully control an armed public. I don’t see them pushing if far enough to cause a rebellion. But you never know.

[WuWei]

@fallenturtle

There are plenty on the left into guns.

Are there? What does that mean, “into guns”?

[fallenturtle]

@WuWei

@fallenturtle

There are plenty on the left into guns.

Are there? What does that mean, “into guns”?

Yes. It means they’re into guns. Like them, use them, collect them, etc.

[zantax]

@fallenturtle

@altair1013

@fallenturtle

How does a member of the military decide if an order is appropriate?

I did take an oath to “render obedience to all appropriate orders.” I’m not an expert. But you could probably research it. My guess would be they take it on a case by case basis.

So is it basically a jurisdiction thing? Like police, national guard, FBI, can kill Americans considered a threat, but for the rest of the military to do it they’d first have to be declared non-Americans… like an act of secession? And therefore nukes and F-15s wouldn’t be used on Americans because they’d have to be declared non-Americans before the parts of the military that have access to those weapons would get involved?

Ah the only war the left actually wants to fight.

[fallenturtle]

@zantax

@fallenturtle

@altair1013

@fallenturtle

How does a member of the military decide if an order is appropriate?

I did take an oath to “render obedience to all appropriate orders.” I’m not an expert. But you could probably research it. My guess would be they take it on a case by case basis.

So is it basically a jurisdiction thing? Like police, national guard, FBI, can kill Americans considered a threat, but for the rest of the military to do it they’d first have to be declared non-Americans… like an act of secession? And therefore nukes and F-15s wouldn’t be used on Americans because they’d have to be declared non-Americans before the parts of the military that have access to those weapons would get involved?

Ah the only war the left actually wants to fight.

Huh?
…

[WuWei]

@fallenturtle

@WuWei

@fallenturtle

There are plenty on the left into guns.

Are there? What does that mean, “into guns”?

Yes. It means they’re into guns. Like them, use them, collect them, etc.

Strange. I guess I’m not “into guns” so much. Use them for what?

Are you under the impression the 2nd has anything to do with collecting?

[fallenturtle]

@WuWei

Strange. I guess I’m not “into guns” so much. Use them for what?

Strange, you seem like someone who likes guns and firing them.

@WuWei

Are you under the impression the 2nd has anything to do with collecting?

No.

[altair1013]

@zantax

Ah the only war the left actually wants to fight.

The left likes Antifa wars. Where antifa gets to pillage and burn and the cops get to watch.

[TheRedComet]

If said government is grossly violating the fundamental rights of its citizens it is no longer worthy of the title “government by the people” and it is the obligation of the people to set up a new government that will perform its duty.

Why would you side with the state in a scenario like that?