Biden's Stimulus Package

We don’t have unfettered capitalism. Owners have to pay workers a minimum wage in line what the govt regulates.

Allan

No, they don’t. Just make it in China and so much for minimum wage.

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The lie here is that Biden had anything to do with it. You can tell because fake news and the tyranny tools are all chanting “Biden’s” stimulus. We all know he’s a sock puppet.

“Not Really” Joe… Not really mentally capable, so not really president and not really elected.

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Dropped that whole trade war and decoupling thing like a hot potato I see. :roll_eyes:

Suddenly who ever runs “Not Really” Joe has changed the stimulus checks from 2000 to 1400$.

So it was “not really” 2000$.

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lol… center for progress.

not interested in the leftist masters propoganda, not sorry

Should they?

Come on. He argued for $2000 round of stimulus checks. Congress passed $600.
$2000 - $600 = $1400.
But you knew that.

What i would not give for some HONEST debate somewhere on the web.

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I’m your huckleberry. Start a thread.

On what? For instance - The Biden Stimulus package -Lots of good stuff. Lots of bad stuff. Would love a debate that talked about the issue without fake outrage and playing dumb.

Sneaky -I actually do enjoy debating with you when you are arguing a point. Tooo often you dont and would rather post a meme, a emoji, or just repeat a word as a question vs stating your thought. But lets give it a shot…

1st -Instead of ALL of this- I would rather the government expands the PPE money and guidelines. The BEST way to ensure money gets to where it needs to be is Government gives money to business to cover 80% of peoples wages if the business can show that their revenue was impacted by Covid. That to me is the most efficient way of doing this, along with enhanced unemployment for those that rely on Tips and the Gig Economy for their income.
Short on that…

$1400 checks to bring it to $2000 stimulus checks -Hate this. It should be targeted. Stimulus checks to anyone whose AGI is 10% to 50% less then 2019. Id be OK with a Tax credit that had to be paid back if your AGI is not less. (Different % of different income. Make under 75k a year? If your AGI is 10% less you get the stimulus. AGI is 400k in 2019? If you took a 50% hit in 2020 you get the stimulus.

Enhanced Unemployment - Strongly support.

Rent Assistances and Eviction pause - Only if its carried thru all they way. If Landlords cant evict someone and show they are not paying rent -All Property tax and such needs to be forgiven. The assistance money should go to landlord and again -Be based on the % of hit you took. If you are down 50% of rental income due to Rent not being paying you get a higher $$ amount then if you are down 5% of rental.

15% increase for SNAP -Yes.

Child tax credits enhancement -Yes.

Covering Health Care cost for those that lost their job - YES. That is probably the best part of this. I know lots of people that lost their jobs due to covid and COBRA eats up any and all enhanced UE benefits

Hourly Min Wage increase -Not the right spot for it. I support a increase of Min wage ($15 seems high). But not in this bill.

Everything else in this bill (Money for schools, money for vaccine distribution, guaranteed sick time for companies more then 50 people). All support.

Whatever you want

Nice start.

and yet - Here. I gave the start of a honest debate. Up and down Bidens plan and thoughts.
Would love to hear your opinion. Would love t0 hear everyone’s honest opinion of the bill and how it might do in the congress.

In somebody else’s thread. And you started off your honest debate with an ad hominem attack that hurt my feelings - a microaggression - intended to hurt and intimidate me while setting yourself up as intellectually superior and in a position of power.

You want an honest debate? Start an honest thread.

No math and minimal links.

Starting a thread of a topic that already exists in a thread?

seems silly. The thread is called Bidens stimulus package. If I started a thread with the same topic it would like jsut like this.

Sorry if I hurt you feelings. it was intended to encourage you to participate in the debate. anyway - this has already gone sideways . I don’t think many people want to debate anymore because its much easier to simply say “Trump is evil and everything he does is evil” or “Biden is a socialist and everything he does it bad because of it” .

This thread has 300 posts. And you hurt me. If we’re going to have an honest debate, we need a clean slate.

You can even put it in here and we’ll get the moderators to watch it for us.

Same stats I saw on many pages, some straight from the government. NC is not doing all that great being in the top fifteen nation wide for poverty rate.

Jbiden is definitely not a socialist.

Of course. The effect on inflation would be negligible for one thing and not raising it causes it to be worth less and less over time, 20% just in the last eleven years, totally defeating the purpose.