Biden's man-caused disaster in Texas

CanadianJudo · 2021-02-21T23:23:09.513Z

clearly its all the wind turbines fault, they froze the pipelines.

Yossarian · 2021-02-21T23:24:15.857Z

thinkingman:

yeah look at those babies spin

You realize it’s a “still” photo, not a video, right?

thinkingman · 2021-02-21T23:24:38.694Z

JayJay:

They did “cut it”.

They produced more power than was expected of them during the time period of the snow and cold.

It was the natural gas lines that did not.

hmmmm… believe jayjay, or data…

hmmmm…

JayJay · 2021-02-21T23:24:40.535Z

In another thread you were all over someone for “attacking the source and not the data”.

Here you are in this thread immediately attacking the source.

Interesting…

CanadianJudo · 2021-02-21T23:25:01.216Z

what data, no data support your claim.

JayJay · 2021-02-21T23:25:17.640Z

thinkingman:

JayJay:

They did “cut it”.

They produced more power than was expected of them during the time period of the snow and cold.

It was the natural gas lines that did not.

hmmmm… believe jayjay, or data…

hmmmm…

The data I used was from ERCOT.

Look…here you are attacking the source again.

CanadianJudo · 2021-02-21T23:25:53.196Z

ERCOT sounds like a liberal hoax.

thinkingman · 2021-02-21T23:26:09.256Z

JayJay:

In another thread you were all over someone for “attacking the source and not the data”.

Here you are in this thread immediately attacking the source.

Interesting…

more “interesting” to you than the topic here, evidently

how flattering

JayJay · 2021-02-21T23:26:47.178Z

thinkingman:

JayJay:

In another thread you were all over someone for “attacking the source and not the data”.

Here you are in this thread immediately attacking the source.

Interesting…

more “interesting” to you than the topic here, evidently

how flattering

I can multitask.

But let me know when attacking the source is acceptable to you, and when it is not.

thinkingman · 2021-02-21T23:27:02.342Z

JayJay:

thinkingman:

JayJay:

They did “cut it”.

They produced more power than was expected of them during the time period of the snow and cold.

It was the natural gas lines that did not.

hmmmm… believe jayjay, or data…

hmmmm…

The data I used was from ERCOT.

Look…here you are attacking the source again.

a “poster” with no data is not a “source”

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-02-21T23:27:23.308Z

PeterGriffin:

Greg Abbott as AG sued the EPA so that Texas wouldn’t have to winterize its electrical generation or grid.

This is a failure of conservative free market, low regulation ideology when it meets the real world.

this

I am willing to cut Texas a small break given the unusual nature of the storm, and I sincerely hope they will learn from this.

thinkingman · 2021-02-21T23:28:07.743Z

JayJay:

thinkingman:

JayJay:

In another thread you were all over someone for “attacking the source and not the data”.

Here you are in this thread immediately attacking the source.

Interesting…

more “interesting” to you than the topic here, evidently

how flattering

I can multitask.

But let me know when attacking the source is acceptable to you, and when it is not.

let me know when youre done creating a fake narrative to cry about because you have squat for a real argument k thanks

SottoVoce · 2021-02-21T23:29:45.390Z

thinkingman:

SottoVoce:

thinkingman:

SottoVoce:

thinkingman:

SottoVoce:

This is as false now as when it was said the first time. When will people take responsibility, make corrections and move on? Probably never.

The Don Quixote windmill/wind turbine parellel is surprisingly on point.

really?

well i disagree and believe the data and conclusions in the OP articles.

Three low brow website opinion pieces and a USA Today article which doesn’t back the narrative. I guess that’s “data?”

It doesn’t matter. “Facts” have no place for those who just want things to be the way they want it. People could post actual objective facts, but they’d be dismissed, so what’s the point? People have every right to believe something that’s wrong to make themselves happy.

Like I’ve said before, at least the cognitive dissidence is entertaining. I have no doubt there will be more entertaining retorts to come.

calling sources “low brow” wont cut it with me

i’m looking at data. if it’s wrong show where

Been discussed multiple times. Biggest factor was cut in natural gas electricity production.

RINO Dan Crenshaw confirms:

Low Supply of Natural Gas: ERCOT planned on 67GW from natural gas/coal, but could only get 43GW of it online. We didn’t run out of natural gas, but we ran out of the ability to get natural gas. Pipelines in Texas don’t use cold insulation —so things were freezing.

No, frozen wind turbines aren’t the main culprit for Texas’ power outages

It’s estimated that of the grid’s total winter capacity, about 80% of it, or 67 gigawatts, could be generated by natural gas, coal and some nuclear power. Only 7% of ERCOT’s forecasted winter capacity, or 6 gigawatts, was expected to come from various wind power sources across the state.

Production of natural gas in the state has plunged due to the freezing conditions, making it difficult for power plants to get the fuel necessary to run the plants. Natural gas power plants usually don’t have very much fuel storage on site, experts said. Instead, the plants rely on the constant flow of natural gas from pipelines that run across the state from areas like the oil and natural gas-producing Permian Basin in West Texas to major demand centers like Houston and Dallas.

Texas natural gas pipelines froze. Natural gas energy therefore dropped. Politicians blamed frozen wind turbines.

This will all be dismissed though. So like I said, what’s the point?

whenever i see a “source” of news that immediately gets a snarky attitude like the idiot dallas news i completely ignore them

because their childish attitudes deserve that

whether gas was there or not to provide power, for whatever reason, point still stands wind mills didnt cut it

Yup. As expected. Dismissed in the first line. Classic.

Like has been said, ERCOT anticipated 7% of winter power from wind turbines. 80% was from non-renewables. As gas lines froze, ERCOT pushed wind turbines way past that 7% mark. Then, when the gas lines continued to freeze and natural gas power fell by over 1/3 of what was needed, the already over burdened wind turbines could no longer make up for the losses when they froze.

But sure, blame wind turbines.

Yossarian · 2021-02-21T23:30:27.353Z

JayJay:

thinkingman:

JayJay:

They did “cut it”.

They produced more power than was expected of them during the time period of the snow and cold.

It was the natural gas lines that did not.

hmmmm… believe jayjay, or data…

hmmmm…

The data I used was from ERCOT.

Look…here you are attacking the source again.

Well, the “R” stands for “Reliability”, so…

CanadianJudo · 2021-02-21T23:32:23.112Z

Get out of here with “Facts”

GrandWazoo · 2021-02-21T23:36:46.439Z

thinkingman:

whether gas was there or not to provide power, for whatever reason, point still stands wind mills didnt cut it

Because the Republicans in charge at the time left it to free market decisions and Texas didn’t purchase windmills that can withstand the weather.
Here is a article that will help educate you on the subject:
https://electrek.co/2021/02/19/egeb-why-some-wind-turbines-froze-in-texas-but-dont-in-the-arctic/

Borgia_dude · 2021-02-21T23:37:12.602Z

thinkingman:

Supreme_War_Pig:

That is simply not true. And even if it were, it’s still not Biden’s fault.

yeah well op articles say otherwise.

i guess this will meet resistance due to its challenge to the media narrative put out by democrats for their robots

So here is the relevant graph from the first link.

I’m pretty sure this is either misinterpreted or totally fake. If I interpret the way the OP interprets it we could say that natural gas is a minority compared to wind. We absolutely know that is false.

thinkingman · 2021-02-21T23:46:56.756Z

Borgia_dude:

thinkingman:

Supreme_War_Pig:

That is simply not true. And even if it were, it’s still not Biden’s fault.

yeah well op articles say otherwise.

i guess this will meet resistance due to its challenge to the media narrative put out by democrats for their robots

So here is the relevant graph from the first link.

I’m pretty sure this is either misinterpreted or totally fake. If I interpret the way the OP interprets it we could say that natural gas is a minority compared to wind. We absolutely know that is false.

that is not my interpretation. mine is the wind failed, due to it’s many weaknesses, then gas picked up the slack, till it failed, because so much focus was put on precious green wind

then people died

CanadianJudo · 2021-02-21T23:47:48.594Z

If Texas can’t handle a 7% drop in production, its their own fault.

thinkingman · 2021-02-21T23:48:41.376Z

CanadianJudo:

If Texas can’t handle a 7% drop in production, its their own fault.

oh they asked for it alright.