And what is the negative economic and social impact the current flow of foreigners is having in our country?

JWK

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris want elderly American citizens, who were forced to pay into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their Medicare Trust Fund with millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders. LINK

I covered this in a previous post.

Refugees, on average, contribute $21,000 more than they take in over their first 20 years in the US.

20 years of research… how are you still so incapable of discussing refugees?

What a waste of two decades. I wasted 15 minutes on you in the past two days and feel like putting my head through a wall.

Twenty years?!?! God. Imagine what an industrious refugee could have done with that time.

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That is from an opinion piece stated by an advocacy group. Now let us take a look at current day reports:

The current Administration has flung open the doors for the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, disease carrying, mentally impaired and criminal populations of Central America to flood into the United States, and is now handing over $4.38 BILLION IN CASH to the flood of foreigners swarming our border, and that handout is in addition to the Biden Administration housing the surge of foreigners flooding into our country from Central America in expensive hotels at taxpayer expense! See: Biden is spending $86 million on hotel rooms for migrants as his administration struggles to handle the surge of families and kids trying to come to the US

March 20, 2021

“The latest decision to secure hotel rooms comes as the US is seeing the biggest surge of migrants at the border in decades, pacing towards a potential 2 million migrants at the US-Mexico border this year, The Washington Post reported. The surge is putting a heavy strain on government resources and border towns.”

And let us not forget how the children of illegal entrants are overburdening our public school systems and the children of American taxpaying citizens are paying the price. See: US schools — and students — will pay a price for Biden’s open borders for minors

March 16, 2021

"Their education will cost thousands of dollars a year more than for the average student because they’ll need linguistic experts, tutors, psychological counseling, vaccinations and other support.

*They’ll also consume most of a classroom teacher’s attention, leaving the rest of the class to make do with less. *

Even so, only 66 percent of students without English skills ever graduate.

They will struggle, but so will our own kids. This migration wave is hitting schools just as they’re reopening after the pandemic. Students have missed an entire year of school activities."

It is also important to point out how our prisons are filling with criminal aliens let into our country. See: One in five US prison inmates is a ‘criminal alien’

" For starters, 91 percent of federal criminal aliens were citizens of Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Colombia or Guatemala.

There were more than 730,000 criminal aliens in U.S. or state prisons and local jails during the period measured. They accounted for 4.9 million arrests for 7.5 million offenses. (The numbers, according to the GAO: 197,000 criminal aliens in federal prisons, arrested 1.4 million times for 2 million offenses, between 2011 and 2016; 533,000 in state or local facilities between 2010 and 2015, representing 3.5 million arrests for 5.5 million offenses.)"

The article continues by pointing out costs to America’s taxpaying citizens . . . “federal taxpayers shelled out more than $15 billion during the period studied — or $2.5 billion a year — to keep criminal aliens behind bars in federal, state and local facilities.”

And let us not forget the cost to American Citizens for the healthcare needs of illegal entrants. See: New NY health care law might spend over $500M on illegal immigrants

February 24, 2019

“New York legislators are pushing a new law to have the cash-strapped state spend more than $500 million to provide virtually free, taxpayer-financed health care to more than 400,000 adult illegal immigrants.”

The article continues . . . “The Gottfried-Rivera measure piggybacks a similar $100 million program touted by Mayor de Blasio that guarantees illegal immigrants in the city get basic medical care through doctors at city-run hospitals.”

Aside from all the above, the question remains:

Should the United States, in promoting the general welfare of the United States and her citizens, enforce a merit based approach restricting the entry of foreigners?

JWK

It’s not in my mind.

One (asylum) requires travel to the United States before filing.

The other (refugee) doesn’t have that requirement.

It is done at the home country or some country that is a safe haven. (Not the United States)

Which is why they he vast majority of refugees are NOT from the americas.

The vast majority of asylum seekers are.

Allan

And both are covered under 8 USC 1158: Asylum

(A) Eligibility

The Secretary of Homeland Security or the Attorney General may grant asylum to an alien who has applied for asylum in accordance with the requirements and procedures established by the Secretary of Homeland Security or the Attorney General under this section if the Secretary of Homeland Security or the Attorney General determines that such alien is a refugee within the meaning of section 1101(a)(42)(A) of this title.

(B) Burden of proof

(i) In general

The burden of proof is on the applicant to establish that the applicant is a refugee, within the meaning of section 1101(a)(42)(A) of this title. To establish that the applicant is a refugee within the meaning of such section, the applicant must establish that race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion was or will be at least one central reason for persecuting the applicant.

(ii) Sustaining burden

The testimony of the applicant may be sufficient to sustain the applicant’s burden without corroboration, but only if the applicant satisfies the trier of fact that the applicant’s testimony is credible, is persuasive, and refers to specific facts sufficient to demonstrate that the applicant is a refugee. In determining whether the applicant has met the applicant’s burden, the trier of fact may weigh the credible testimony along with other evidence of record. Where the trier of fact determines that the applicant should provide evidence that corroborates otherwise credible testimony, such evidence must be provided unless the applicant does not have the evidence and cannot reasonably obtain the evidence.

Now, the question is:

Should the United States, in promoting the general welfare of the United States and her citizens, enforce a merit based approach restricting the entry of foreigners?

JWK

And yet again. Those rules are for asylum. Not refugees.

Refugees status is not made by United States law but by the 1967 international treaty ratified by the United States senate.

Allan

Allan

My goodness, you sure love to deflect, obfuscate and misdirect, not to mention making stuff up!

My question applies to all those seeking to immigrate to the United States.

Should the United States, in promoting the general welfare of the United States and her citizens, enforce a merit based approach restricting the entry of foreigners?

JWK

Here’s the Biden Administration’s DHS Secretary… openly championing open borders.

“Rather than viewing borders solely as the lines that mark national boundaries and that divide us from one another, we should see borders as a point of connection, as the place where the flow of people and goods from different countries interact and intersect"

Refugees and Asylum

Refugee status or asylum may be granted to people who have been persecuted or fear they will be persecuted on account of race, religion, nationality, and/or membership in a particular social group or political opinion.

Refugees

Refugee status is a form of protection that may be granted to people who meet the definition of refugee and who are of special humanitarian concern to the United States. Refugees are generally people outside of their country who are unable or unwilling to return home because they fear serious harm. For a legal definition of refugee, see section 101(a)(42) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).

You may seek a referral for refugee status only from outside of the United States. For more information about refugees, see the Refugees section.

Asylum

Asylum status is a form of protection available to people who:

  • Meet the definition of refugee
  • Are already in the United States
  • Are seeking admission at a port of entry

You may apply for asylum in the United States regardless of your country of origin or your current immigration status. For more information about asylum status, see the Asylum section.

The bottom line is, there are rules and specific criteria which must be met to qualify for either!

That is not making stuff up, the United States is in fact a sign to the 1967 protocol regarding refugees.

It’s an international treaty ratified by the United States senate.

We are bound to the terms of the treaty.

And cannot create new laws regarding it on a whim of some disgruntled citizen.

Allan

Are there rules and criteria under which “refugees” may be denied entry into the United States?

Allan

It simply is true during coronavirus they are not.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/germany-stops-accepting-refugees-over-coronavirus/a-52826716

You are ignoring the cost.

You need to do research.

They are not refugees.

THE RULES

Links to other websites are permitted; however, a synopsis and discussion of content must be posted.

A year old news story.

Can we get something a little more recent.

The refugees are being accepted in Germany.

They just got pushed back into this year.

Allan

That’s the refugee website for the un

Just an FYI for interested forumites.

Allan