Biden to expand open border policy ___ US Citizens to pay the price!

Line five o the Soviet passport identified me as a Jew that would have closed significant economic doors for me Ans my family.

They are currently arresting jehovas witnesses in Russia as extremists therefore preventing them from securing jobs.

I responded to the point. Your words have meanings Ans you has a point

I posted the centgov link.

It’s based upon humanitarian issues.

It’s why we took in Omar and a lot of other people from Somalia. Humanitarian issues.

Not economic ones.

Allan

Allan

The refugee act of 1980 lets the POTUS determine the number of refugee allowed to enter the country.

With trump the number was set low

Under biden the number changed higher.

According the the law of the nation.

The POTUS is the decider.

He decided on the number 62,500.

Elections have consequences.

Allan

And The term “refugee” means:

(A) any person who is outside any country of such person’s nationality or, in the case of a person having no nationality,is outside any country in which such person last habitually resided, and who is unable or unwilling to return to, and is unable or unwilling to avail himself or herself of the protection of, that country because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion . . . .

Coming here for a “better life” is not grounds to open our doors to “refugees” and/or “asylum-seekers”

American citizens have no obligation to be made into tax slaves to support the economic needs of those flooding into the United States for a “better life”. We have our own citizens in need of help.

The irrefutable fact is, those swarming our border from Central America are sucking the life blood of American citizens like a swarm of ticks and fleas.

Why are taxpaying American Citizens being made into tax slaves by the Biden Administration to pay for the births of anchor babies born to illegal alien women which opens the door to even more taxpayer benefits for the illegal alien?
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JWK

What do anchor babies have to do with refugees?

Apples and oranges.

Allan

As you can see the top 4 countries that the United States accepted refugees in 2020 from were

  1. Congo
  2. Burma
  3. The Ukraine
  4. Afghanistan

None of which is anywhere near Central America.

Allan

The same thing your deflection has to do in regarding the meaning of “refugee”.

:roll_eyes:

No need for quotations marks.

A refugee is outside the country

Hence the refugees mainly come from countries with no land connection to the United States.

Allan

What does you post have to do with the current mass immigration from Central America, which is what we are talking about?

JWK

The increase in the number of refugees we will accept has NOTHING to do with the people swarming our southern border.

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Well, I can see you are here to disrupt a productive discussion regarding the mass immigration from Central America.

JWK

Refugee adults have a shorter break-even period to become a net positive financial investment than a native born American. It takes 12 years, on average, for a refugee to pay back, via taxes, what was used to support them. In the case of an American child, the break even point is more than 30 years.

They accomplish this while having no negative impact on labor market or overall economy.

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/The-Labor-Market-Impact-on-Refugees-Evidence-form-the-U.S.-Resettlement-Program-1.pdf

So we get to positively impact the economy while helping people have better lives.

Win-win.

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I believe a majority of American citizens agree with you. I certainly do! Did you see MY POST on the matter of vetting immigrants?

JWK

That worked out well for the nation. Doesn’t quite bolster your argument.

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Thank you for your opinion piece.

If you really want an authoritative source documenting some of the devastating social and financial consequences of illegal immigration in San Diego County when it began to explode in the 1990s, you can find that in a Congressional Hearing ___ “SOCIETAL AND LEGAL ISSUES SURROUNDING CHILDREN BORN IN THE UNITED STATES TO ILLEGAL ALIEN PARENTS” ___ e…g.,CLICK HERE and scroll to page 93 for testimony given by JOAN ZINSER before the COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, DECEMBER 13, 1995

“Good morning Chairman Smith and other honorable members of the Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims. I am Joan Zinser, Deputy Director of the San Diego County Department of Social Services. I direct the department’s Income Maintenance Bureau, which has responsibility for AFDC, Food Stamps and Medicaid eligibility determinations. I am here today to tell you about the effects of illegal immigration on the County’s assistance programs, and to present information regarding impacts on other county-funded services.”

Impacts on San Diego County

In 1993, illegal aliens in San Diego County were estimated to be 7.9% of the population, or a total of almost 220,000 illegal aliens in a county with a population of slightly over 2 1/2 million. A 1993 Calffornia State Senate report estimated that the State, local governments - primarily the County - and schools incurred $304 million in costs to provide services to illegal aliens. These costs were offset by only $60 million in taxes generated by illegal aliens - leaving a net impact of $244 million.

Welfare Costs.

When a child is a US citizen, AFDC can be granted for the child but not the parent, if the parent is an undocumented immigrant. In 1992 there were 6,414 children born to undocumented immigrant parents in San Diego County hospitals. Each year, the illegal alien parents of nearly 2000 "citizen children" apply for and receive AFDC in San Diego County. The cumulative total of these "citizen child" cases continues to rise each year.

Public assistance is intended to support the citizen child, but is paid to the illegal alien parent and is, no doubt, used by the parent to support the entire family. Costs for providing AFDC to "citizen children" cases in San Diego totaled $37 million in 1993 for approximately 5430 AFDC cases.

Additional costs are incurred in Child Welfare Services. Combining costs for Out-of-Home and Family Maintenance services to families of illegal aliens results in an additional cost of $1.7 million.

Medicaid and Other Health-Related- Costs.

Medicaid services are an increasingly large portion of the costs involved in illegal immigration. In 1992, Medicaid paid for 6,414 births illegal alien mothers. Although studies have shown that illegal aliens use fewer Medicaid services than do the age-equivalent members of the general population, significant costs remain. Delivery costs are greater for babies with mothers lacking adequate prenatal care and many medical conditions are treated more cost-effectively in their early stages. Infectious diseases are also a major concern of the County. San Diego County has historically carried large costs because of illegal aliens with these problems. Costs associated with providing emergency and pregnancy related needs to illegal aliens are paid for under "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." During the 1992 calendar year, an estimated $37 million was paid for "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." Other costs, including uncompensated care in hospitals, community clinics, and other health services elevated the 1993 total costs to over $50 million.

Criminal justice.

A recent 90-day pilot project involved having INS Agents present in the county jails to interview those suspected of being an undocumented immigrant. Approximately 20% of the persons booked into the jails during that pilot were identified as being illegal aliens. With annual bookings of approximatel 105,000 persons a year, it is estimated that up to 21,000 were illegal aliens.

According to the San Diego County District Attorney, 8,521 felony crimes were committed by illegal aliens between 1987 and 1992. Illegal aliens commit an estimated 22% of felony crimes committed in the county. The number of misdemeanors committed during the same period in San Diego County by illegal aliens is estimated to be 17,000. In 1993, approximately 15. 1 % of the costs -accrued in dealing with crimes were spent on illegal aliens. Costs for illegal aliens to the legal system totaled $151 million in the County of San Diego for 1993.

Education.

Recently, a video of students crossing the border and getting on a school bus in San Diego County in order to receive free education was shown nationwide. Locally, we have worked to make sure that this situation does not recur, but education of the children of illegal aliens is also a significant cost. It is estimated that $60 million was spent in San Diego County in 1993 for education of illegal aliens.

JWK

I think you started this thread in bad faith, with absolutely no interest in discussing refugees or our refugee policy.

I care a great deal about these folks. I have volunteered as a career advisor supporting these hard working people as they attempt to legally achieve the American dream.

If you’d like to discuss refugees who would be admitted under your original post, please offer something on the subject.

If you’d instead prefer to discuss illegal immigration, argue with someone else.

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You sure about that?

  • Demonstrates that they were persecuted or fear persecution due to race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group

So now you suggest I started this thread in “bad faith, with absolutely no interest in discussing refugees or our refugee policy.”

The fact is, I expressed my concerns in the OP, regarding the introduction of foreigners into our country and went on to point out:

It is insane and destructive to the general welfare of the United States and her Citizens to fill our country with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of Central America. The Biden Administration’s Executive Orders in this area, quadrupling the allowable number of Central America’s poverty stricken to enter the United States, defies, and makes a mockery of, “public charge” laws on the books in the United States since its founding, and were enforced during the great migration period of the early 1900’s.

During that time period the Irish, Italians and Germans who immigrated to the United States in great numbers and passed the Statute of Liberty on their way to Elis Island, were not granted entry into the United States for a number of reasons. One reason to be rejected was the likelihood of becoming a ward of the state and a “public charge”, and on this ground alone some were refused entry!

"Unescorted women and children were also detained until their safety was assured through the arrival of a telegram, letter, or a pre-paid ticket from a waiting relative. Immigration officials refused to send single women into the streets alone, nor could they leave with a man not related to them. LINK

The law also required a medical inspection of all immigrants, and if an inspection officer detected an applicant with a disease, especially contagious diseases (TB, venereal disease, etc.) and even mental illness, they were rejected.

So, why has the Biden Administration reversed Trump’s common sense “public charge” rule for immigration: see Biden rescinds Trump’s ‘public charge’ rule , and is now filling our country with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of Central America?

Why is the Biden Administration doing this when so many of our own citizens are in need and we have a national debt, including unfunded debt liabilities, of over 222 trillion dollars LINK?

. . . . . .

Are you really saying my concerns are not legitimate, and we ought not have a merit based approach restricting the entry of foreigners into our country?

JWK

Our socialist/fascist revolutionaries, which now control the Democrat Party Leadership, are known for accusing others of what they themselves are guilty of.

I’m saying that you have no interest in discussing legally admitted refugees because they and their outcome don’t match your narrative of the invading brown horde.

The fact is that these people are a net economic gain to the US (and other western nations) as I’ve demonstrated via our own State department’s analysis.

There’s nothing else to discuss. These refugees are not a drain. In fact, they tend to be more entrepreneurial than native born Americans.

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