Jezcoe
2641
It isn’t just federal service. It is state and local government plus tribal and non profits.
Having an educated workforce in public service is a good thing.
I don’t know how much more clear it can be.
Having a program in place that cancels their student loan debt after ten years…. Yeah… all for that.
Thank you for your service.
Samm
2642

Jezcoe:

Samm:

Jezcoe:
What that people who do public service should have their student loans forgiven after meeting a set of criteria?
Yeah… it’s something that helps people choose public service.
I am glad that the Bush era politicians passed the law.
If you aren’t… thats fine. Advocate for it to be repealed.
That still does not answer the questions. Surely there must be a reason why you think they deserve such a grand gift.
Here, I’ll repeat them for you one at a time so they are clear …
“And exactly how is Federal employment “public service”?”
“What sacrifice are they making for the public that makes them worthy of a reward beyond their salary which is funded by the public whom they “serve”?”
By the way, in my experience in government employment (which is substantial) most public employees take the job for the good pay, the better than average leave benefits, the good health benefits, the good retirement benefits and the security of the job. (It’s very hard to be fired and rare to be laid off from a government job.) Nobody I knew in government employment needed loan forgiveness to clinch their decision to take the job or stay in it.
I can think of only one reason why politicians would do this … to buy votes.
It isn’t just federal service. It is state and local government plus tribal and non profits.
Having an educated workforce in public service is a good thing.
I don’t know how much more clear it can be.
Having a program in place that cancels their student loan debt after ten years…. Yeah… all for that.
Thank you for your service.
I can understand why you either can’t or won’t answer, but this beating around the bush has become tedious. Government public employees are not under compensated for their “service.” They don’t need those who have paid or are paying or never took out a student loan in the first place to pay it off for them … and they certainly don’t deserve it.
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Jezcoe
2643

Samm:

Jezcoe:

Samm:

Jezcoe:
What that people who do public service should have their student loans forgiven after meeting a set of criteria?
Yeah… it’s something that helps people choose public service.
I am glad that the Bush era politicians passed the law.
If you aren’t… thats fine. Advocate for it to be repealed.
That still does not answer the questions. Surely there must be a reason why you think they deserve such a grand gift.
Here, I’ll repeat them for you one at a time so they are clear …
“And exactly how is Federal employment “public service”?”
“What sacrifice are they making for the public that makes them worthy of a reward beyond their salary which is funded by the public whom they “serve”?”
By the way, in my experience in government employment (which is substantial) most public employees take the job for the good pay, the better than average leave benefits, the good health benefits, the good retirement benefits and the security of the job. (It’s very hard to be fired and rare to be laid off from a government job.) Nobody I knew in government employment needed loan forgiveness to clinch their decision to take the job or stay in it.
I can think of only one reason why politicians would do this … to buy votes.
It isn’t just federal service. It is state and local government plus tribal and non profits.
Having an educated workforce in public service is a good thing.
I don’t know how much more clear it can be.
Having a program in place that cancels their student loan debt after ten years…. Yeah… all for that.
Thank you for your service.
I can understand why you either can’t or won’t answer, but this beating around the bush has become tedious. Government public employees are not under compensated for their “service.” They don’t need those who have paid or are paying or never took out a student loan in the first place to pay it off for them … and they certainly don’t deserve it.
I have been answering. You just don’t like the answer.
If you don’t think that they “deserve” something like debt relief… then go for advocating to repeal this Bush era law.
Samm
2644
You haven’t been answering, you’ve been beating around the bush. But that’s okay … I understand.
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The SC weighed in to stop this fiasco but Biden/Harris are ignoring the SC!!
Dangerous ground.
That’s known as the Kamala method.
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Smyrna
2647
If it has to be “removed”, then why did it happen in the first place?
Smyrna
2648
When one of our 3 separate and equal forms of government tells the other to ■■■■ off, they have destroyed the intent of our forefathers. All of us should be united in condemning this. SCOTUS ruled and Biden told them to ■■■■ off…PERIOD!
…and all for the corrupt reason as to be re-elected by buying votes. What a complete ass.
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Jezcoe
2649
Because it was incurred to get a higher education
Jezcoe
2650
The Court slapped down the blanket debt relief that relied on the HEROES act.
This action uses a completely different law.
Smyrna
2651
If the value of the education is truly of value, then they can afford to pay the debt they and they alone chose to incurr. If they can’t pay the debt, then if anything, the educational institution must absorb the total loss or…the amount their student can’t pay?
Smyrna
2652
No it isn’t. It’s the same debt and the same debtors.
Jezcoe
2653
It is using a different law… it is literally called the Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program and it was passed in 2007.
Smyrna
2654
You are corrupt and this money is being stolen from taxpayers. When Trump gets elected, I hope he makes an executive order and reinstates the debt the debtors chose to incur and are held responsible for their chosen actions.
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Jezcoe
2655
How is a law that was passed in the Bush era specifically designed to relieve student loan debt corrupt?
Smyrna
2656
Why in the hell would taxpayers be responsible for voluntary debt of which the taxpayers had no part in the decision of it, to be held responsible? Why doesn’t the government pay off homes, cars and many other debts that the responsibility of life sometimes makes people incur? This is for no other reason than to buy votes. SCOTUS made a ruling and the Biden Administration told them to ■■■■ off…period. It is my hope that those responsible are indicted and prosecuted plus…they themselves be financially responsible for their corrupt decision.
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Jezcoe
2657
That was taking the action using a different law… and everyone knew that there was a high potential of it getting slapped down.
This action uses a law that was passed in 2007 to relieve student loan debt of people who worked in Public service for 10 years or a non profit.
That means that this is debt relief for firemen, nurses, teachers, public sector employees, people who work at charitable organizations.
I still don’t see the corruption.
Because Congress passed a law, and the President signed it, back in 2007.

No one here owes you a justification for a law passed by Congress 16 years ago.
Samm
2660
Your response is even less pertinent than @Jezcoe’s. Particularly as I did not ask for justification for a law.