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If it ain’t broke, call a liberal to make it broke.

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You might be able to make that argument, except a successful drug dealing gang member may have significant unreported income. And bail in the US is usually a purchased surety from a bonds man, for a fraction of the actual bond amount.

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e7air, you are too logical. I think the brother who proposed income tolerant bail cannot think that far out. +10

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I love that people are pretending that the idea of basing bail on income and risk is not something that has support on the right also.

The Koch brothers of all people argue for it.

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Risk, yes. Income, no.

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no one should be in prison because they are poor.

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Who puts people in prison because they are poor?

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when bail is set outside their means.
what is the point of setting a bail if the person can’t pay it.

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They’ll get their trial. If bail is outside of their means, it was probably a serious enough crime or they are enough of a flight risk that the bail was set high.

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being in jail greatly effect one ability to prepare for trial.

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I would add- bail should be set based on income…and risk level.

That is where most bail reform efforts are aimed at. So no- people who commit violent crimes should have bail set based on the threat to the community at large.

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No, it really doesn’t.

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Define the community at large, please.

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It is.

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So what.

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The community that is obese is the community at large? :mask:

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You have 100% correct

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Also protects the normal lawbiding citizens

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Bail reform is aimed primarily at reducing how many people languish in jail for non-violent crimes that pose little physical threat to the community.

Rand Paul and Kamala Harris worked on this in 2017.

In a New York Times op-ed in July, the two senators said there are “450,000 Americans who sit in jail today awaiting trial because they cannot afford to pay bail.”

Bail is aimed at making sure defendants, depending on the severity of the charges they face and their flight risk, return to court. Those with limited means, however, often find themselves unable to post bail, which can lead to job loss and child custody issues, or forced to borrow from bail bondsmen.

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Just to add- those 450 K people- cost taxpayers a ton of money.

“Jailing people awaiting trial is also monstrously expensive, at a price tag of $14bn annually.”