Biden needs to follow trump's lead on gun control asap and executive order ban all mags over 5 rounds

Paul_Do · 2021-04-15T15:05:21.100Z

altair1013:

Tom_Ch:

Don’t you care about what future we are leaving our grandchildren???

No. Neither do you. If you did, you would complain about how both parties have screwed this up. You would demand action from YOUR OWN PARTY! Are you demanding action from your own party?

Obama lowered the deficit by a trillion after inheriting a recession and a 1.5 trillion deficit.

You can’t just instantly wipe out the deficit and debt, it takes time and if Trump had kept up a fraction of the reduction going that Obama had we would be in the clear.

Paul_Do · 2021-04-15T15:08:17.872Z

altair1013:

Paul_Do:

altair1013:

Nobody cares about the debt or the deficit. NO-BODY. If they did, they wouldn’t give their own party a total pass for their part of creating it.

Cons are the only ones that don’t care beyond using it as a political tool to confuse the uneducated and uninformed.

Thank you for proving my point! Libs have no concern what so ever for what their own party has done to run up the debt. None. Zero, zip, nada. I claim that both parties are guilty. You claim that only one party is guilty.

Again, thanks for conceding this point.

Then why did the deficit decrease by 1 trillion under Obama and Clinton?

The debt is a distraction, the deficit is what matters.

altair1013 · 2021-04-15T15:09:57.708Z

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altair1013:

Tom_Ch:

Don’t you care about what future we are leaving our grandchildren???
[/quote]

No. Neither do you. If you did, you would complain about how both parties have screwed this up. You would demand action from YOUR OWN PARTY! Are you demanding action from your own party?

Obama lowered the deficit by a trillion after inheriting a recession and a 1.5 trillion deficit.

You can’t just instantly wipe out the deficit and debt, it takes time and if Trump had kept up a fraction of the reduction going that Obama had we would be in the clear.

I’ve already won my argument and proved what I stated. No reason to continue with the nonsense. You are doing exactly as I said you would. I knew what you would say before you said it.

Take zero responsibility for what your party has done to the national debt. You are as predictable as the sunrise.

Steel-W0LF · 2021-04-15T15:11:10.061Z

Paul_Do:

altair1013:

WuWei:

What do you care about the “DEFECET!” How does it affect you?

Nobody cares about the debt or the deficit. NO-BODY. If they did, they wouldn’t give their own party a total pass for their part of creating it.

Cons are the only ones that don’t care beyond using it as a political tool to confuse the uneducated and uninformed.

Dem administrations have constantly lowered the deficit. They actual address it realistically. Clinton brought it under control and Obama lowered it by 1 trillion more than any other president in history.

“Nobody cares” is con projection

no… they didnt.

both instances you list was a republican congress forcing a president to cut budgets. If you want to argue that when Rs had total control they spent too much still you wont get much argument.

Both Clinton and Obama had to be bent over a barrel with government shutdowns before they signed those budgets.

instead of looking at who was president, color the deficit graph by who controlled congress, since congress sets the buget…

Steel-W0LF · 2021-04-15T15:15:41.917Z

Steel-W0LF:

Paul_Do:

altair1013:

WuWei:

What do you care about the “DEFECET!” How does it affect you?

Nobody cares about the debt or the deficit. NO-BODY. If they did, they wouldn’t give their own party a total pass for their part of creating it.

Cons are the only ones that don’t care beyond using it as a political tool to confuse the uneducated and uninformed.

Dem administrations have constantly lowered the deficit. They actual address it realistically. Clinton brought it under control and Obama lowered it by 1 trillion more than any other president in history.

“Nobody cares” is con projection

no… they didnt.

both instances you list was a republican congress forcing a president to cut budgets. If you want to argue that when Rs had total control they spent too much still you wont get much argument.

Both Clinton and Obama had to be bent over a barrel with government shutdowns before they signed those budgets.

instead of looking at who was president, color the deficit graph by who controlled congress, since congress sets the buget…

Here. I’ll even help. Here’s the chart from a couple years ago.

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Paul_Do · 2021-04-15T15:17:33.162Z

altair1013:

Paul_Do:

altair1013:

Nobody cares about the debt or the deficit. NO-BODY. If they did, they wouldn’t give their own party a total pass for their part of creating it.

Cons are the only ones that don’t care beyond using it as a political tool to confuse the uneducated and uninformed.

Thank you for proving my point! Libs have no concern what so ever for what their own party has done to run up the debt. None. Zero, zip, nada. I claim that both parties are guilty. You claim that only one party is guilty.

Again, thanks for conceding this point.

Why did deficit explode under republic pres and congress?

Oldandtired · 2021-04-15T15:18:54.508Z

Might want to do a little research into who controlled the house and the senate when the deficit was lowered. Because Presidents can’t spend money. That job is in the hands of the members of the house and senate.

altair1013 · 2021-04-15T15:19:03.496Z

Steel-W0LF:

Here. I’ll even help. Here’s the chart from a co

Are you happy with your parties contribution to running up the national debt? The debt was ten million when Obama took over. Are the republicans the only ones responsible for all this? Or do both parties need to do much better?

Paul_Do · 2021-04-15T15:20:10.018Z

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Paul_Do:

altair1013:

Tom_Ch:

Don’t you care about what future we are leaving our grandchildren???
[/quote]

No. Neither do you. If you did, you would complain about how both parties have screwed this up. You would demand action from YOUR OWN PARTY! Are you demanding action from your own party?

Obama lowered the deficit by a trillion after inheriting a recession and a 1.5 trillion deficit.

You can’t just instantly wipe out the deficit and debt, it takes time and if Trump had kept up a fraction of the reduction going that Obama had we would be in the clear.

I’ve already won my argument and proved what I stated. No reason to continue with the nonsense. You are doing exactly as I said you would. I knew what you would say before you said it.

Take zero responsibility for what your party has done to the national debt. You are as predictable as the sunrise.

Wut

What you are saying makes 0 sense. If nobody cares about the deficit why did it decrease by 1 trillion under Obama?

Oldandtired · 2021-04-15T15:20:15.412Z

You just showed how much you don’t know about who spends the money in DC.

Steel-W0LF · 2021-04-15T15:21:37.880Z

altair1013:

Steel-W0LF:

Here. I’ll even help. Here’s the chart from a co

Are you happy with your parties contribution to running up the national debt? The debt was ten million when Obama took over. Are the republicans the only ones responsible for all this? Or do both parties need to do much better?

Both need to do much better. Rs do better than the Ds. But not nearly good enough, especially when they have all the power. They only seem to do well when they have the house and are in opposition to the president.

I just get tired of the “blah blah president lowered the deficit”…

altair1013 · 2021-04-15T15:21:59.040Z

Paul_Do:

If nobody cares about the deficit why did it decrease by 1 trillion under Obama?

Show me one instance where either party has owned up to there contribution to the national debt. All they do is finger point. I’ll wait.

Steel-W0LF · 2021-04-15T15:22:29.790Z

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altair1013:

Paul_Do:

altair1013:

Tom_Ch:

Don’t you care about what future we are leaving our grandchildren???
[/quote]

No. Neither do you. If you did, you would complain about how both parties have screwed this up. You would demand action from YOUR OWN PARTY! Are you demanding action from your own party?

Obama lowered the deficit by a trillion after inheriting a recession and a 1.5 trillion deficit.

You can’t just instantly wipe out the deficit and debt, it takes time and if Trump had kept up a fraction of the reduction going that Obama had we would be in the clear.

I’ve already won my argument and proved what I stated. No reason to continue with the nonsense. You are doing exactly as I said you would. I knew what you would say before you said it.

Take zero responsibility for what your party has done to the national debt. You are as predictable as the sunrise.

Wut

What you are saying makes 0 sense. If nobody cares about the deficit why did it decrease by 1 trillion under Obama?

Because the republicans made him do it.

It wasn’t by his choice.

altair1013 · 2021-04-15T15:23:06.350Z

Oldandtired:

You just showed how much you don’t know about who spends the money in DC.

How much do you not know about who spends the money in DC?

Oldandtired · 2021-04-15T15:25:19.291Z

Sorry I was not posting to you. My mistake.

altair1013 · 2021-04-15T16:39:58.369Z

Oldandtired:

Sorry I was not posting to you. My mistake.

I understand. Happens to me all the time.

Paul_Do · 2021-04-16T01:48:02.791Z

[quote=“Steel-W0LF, post:36, topic:238935, full:true”]

Paul_Do:

altair1013:

Paul_Do:

altair1013:

Tom_Ch:

Don’t you care about what future we are leaving our grandchildren???
[/quote]

No. Neither do you. If you did, you would complain about how both parties have screwed this up. You would demand action from YOUR OWN PARTY! Are you demanding action from your own party?

Obama lowered the deficit by a trillion after inheriting a recession and a 1.5 trillion deficit.

You can’t just instantly wipe out the deficit and debt, it takes time and if Trump had kept up a fraction of the reduction going that Obama had we would be in the clear.

I’ve already won my argument and proved what I stated. No reason to continue with the nonsense. You are doing exactly as I said you would. I knew what you would say before you said it.

Take zero responsibility for what your party has done to the national debt. You are as predictable as the sunrise.

Wut

What you are saying makes 0 sense. If nobody cares about the deficit why did it decrease by 1 trillion under Obama?

Because the republicans made him do it.

It wasn’t by his choice.

When Obama had control of both branches the deficit still went down.

Steel-W0LF · 2021-04-16T02:46:47.662Z

Paul_Do:

Steel-W0LF:

Paul_Do:

altair1013:

Paul_Do:

altair1013:

Tom_Ch:

Don’t you care about what future we are leaving our grandchildren???
[/quote]

No. Neither do you. If you did, you would complain about how both parties have screwed this up. You would demand action from YOUR OWN PARTY! Are you demanding action from your own party?

Obama lowered the deficit by a trillion after inheriting a recession and a 1.5 trillion deficit.

You can’t just instantly wipe out the deficit and debt, it takes time and if Trump had kept up a fraction of the reduction going that Obama had we would be in the clear.

I’ve already won my argument and proved what I stated. No reason to continue with the nonsense. You are doing exactly as I said you would. I knew what you would say before you said it.

Take zero responsibility for what your party has done to the national debt. You are as predictable as the sunrise.

Wut

What you are saying makes 0 sense. If nobody cares about the deficit why did it decrease by 1 trillion under Obama?

Because the republicans made him do it.

It wasn’t by his choice.

When Obama had control of both branches the deficit still went down.

Yeah. And it went down faster when Rs had the house.

And when Trump and the Rs had the government the deficit went up. But it went up even faster when the Ds took the house, and is going up exponentially now that they have all 3.

That’s the point. Don’t complain about the deficit when the side you voted for is the guiltiest part of the equation. Rs might not be the best at it, but your side is a lot worse at it.

Samm · 2021-04-19T07:37:43.676Z

Paul_Do:

When Obama had control of both branches the deficit still went down.

Meh. That’s in the past and Obama is not in charge. How is the deficit looking under Biden? Didn’t he just proudly blow $1.9 trillion that we don’t have and is proposing spending another $2.3 trillion? That isn’t going to make the balance sheet look good, is it.

Axxowiz · 2021-04-19T09:52:36.336Z

Agreed it seems out of control deficit spending is the one bipartisan thing both parties attend to agree on.

And don’t get me started with Biden’s removal of the stay in Mexico policy. As if bringing in poor people at a time when only 15% of college educated Americans can afford a home was a good idea.

“let’s move the poor that are south of the border to the US so they can be even poorer here”. Now that’s some high level thinking there.