Biden Justice Department Sides Against Free Speech Advocates in Big First Amendment Case

[Camp]

It was done in private and amounted to name calling.

Lousy battle to pick.

[Camp]

So where is the alleged school harm?

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@Camp

So where is the alleged school harm?

I’m not on the school’s side. I don’t know their argument. I guess you could read their briefs.

[WorldWatcher]

@Camp

It was done in private and amounted to name calling.

Lousy battle to pick.

It wasn’t done “in private”. She posted on the internet (SnapChat works via the internet) and was sent to 250 fellow students at the school.

There is no claim that such a public action can be considered “done in private”.

WW

[Camp]

To a limited audience…Not to an open window.

Not public.

[PurpnGold]

@SixFoot

Why should they have that kind of power over someone off campus?

Because that individual represents them. Especially when that individual is making derogatory statement towards the school and the coaches.

[WorldWatcher]

@Camp

To a limited audience…Not to an open window.

Not public.

Take a different medium.

Let say the school auditorium was empty. She invited 250 teammates and fellow students to the auditorium and did the same thing?

That would absolutely be considered a public act, not a private one.

There is no difference in sending the messages to 250 teammates and fellow students and as such it is a public act.

WW

[Camp]

Nope.

If you said a private theatre with her 250 friends only having tickets…then that works.

[WorldWatcher]

@Camp

Nope.

If you said a private theatre with her 250 friends only having tickets…then that works.

Whether the school auditorium or renting a movie theatre…

No way announcing it in public to 250 teammates and fellow students would be considered a “private” conversation.

WW

[SixFoot]

@PurpnGold

@SixFoot

Why should they have that kind of power over someone off campus?

Because that individual represents them. Especially when that individual is making derogatory statement towards the school and the coaches.

No, that child does not represent the school. Holy crap.

[PurpnGold]

@SixFoot

No, that child does not represent the school. Holy crap.

Oh rly?

School Sports team don’t represent the school…

[SixFoot]

During school activities, the team represents the school. The child at home on her social media account, doesn’t. Holy crap.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

But it also changes an element of the case, by putting the offending activity squarely on School property, and therefore under school power

That is the struggle that at least I am having with this, because Aside from signing a code of ethics, the student performs the offending activity free of school power

[WorldWatcher]

@Supreme_War_Pig

But it also changes an element of the case, by putting the offending activity squarely on School property, and therefore under school power

That is the struggle that at least I am having with this, because Aside from signing a code of ethics, the student performs the offending activity free of school power

See the difference for me in terms of the public display of ethics violations from the team is her methodology.

She could have posted to her teammates and the student body “The selection for varsity cheer is unfair, I was told you had to be on JV for a year and I was. Now I’ve been passed over for varsity and two freshmen went straight to varsity. That’s not fair.”

She chose to send two pictures giving the finger and text saying " ■■■■ the teams", " ■■■■ the school ", and " ■■■■ the coaches ".

See the difference. One is exercising free speech. The other is using offensive and vulgar language about the school, the school teams, and school employees functioning in their official capacity.

The liberals on here think she should not be held accountable for her speech. The more conservative view is she violated the rules, went back on her word after knowing the rules, and should be held accountable for her actions.

WW

[STODR]

Kinda ironic the libs are all hair on fire about a teenager swearing on social media, but okay with adults getting in kids faces and yelling at them.

[SixFoot]

@STODR

Kinda ironic the libs are all hair on fire about a teenager swearing on social media, but okay with adults getting in kids faces and yelling at them.

It’s definitely a learned habit for them to automatically take the opposite side of what conservatives are arguing. It’s practically robotic.

[dderatz]

@SixFoot

@WorldWatcher

Highly Suspect: Other teenagers on social media were following each other on the squads and one of them brought it to the coaches attention.

A grown adult getting in on the teenage drama. Creepy. lol

It was the coach’s daughter, who was also on the squad.

[Smyrna]

@SpacemanSpiff

Meh, the same people complaining about the violation of free speech would be calling these kids a bunch of entitled brats, with parents who didn’t raise them right, that need to learn to take responsibility for their actions if another particular guy was in the White House. And also complaining about the involvement of the commie ACLU.

Have you been hiding with Joe in his basement that you’re unaware Trump has been called worse by adults…for years now…on every social media site out there.

[PurpnGold]

@STODR

Kinda ironic the libs are all hair on fire about a teenager swearing on social media, but okay with adults getting in kids faces and yelling at them.

Not this liberal

[SpacemanSpiff]

@Smyrna

@SpacemanSpiff

Meh, the same people complaining about the violation of free speech would be calling these kids a bunch of entitled brats, with parents who didn’t raise them right, that need to learn to take responsibility for their actions if another particular guy was in the White House. And also complaining about the involvement of the commie ACLU.

Have you been hiding with Joe in his basement that you’re unaware Trump has been called worse by adults…for years now…on every social media site out there.

None of them work for Trump.