Stop with the foot longs please.
Axios-Ipsos poll: Six out of 10 voters back Biden vaccine mandates
Requiring shots or weekly testing is embraced by eight in 10 Democrats â and just three in 10 Republicans.
Stop with the foot longs please.
I just cant understand why so many are insistent in demanding everyone accepts a government mandated one size fits all approach, especially when that approach can be fatal to some, and useless to others, i.e., those having acquired natural immunity.
JWK
Are folks who are for mandating vaccines indifferent to exceptions?
You seem to have made your chose. You want to put hard working nurses out of a job because they wonât bow to your demands. You have chosen for people to be refused service because there are not enough nurses to care for them. These same nurses who have cared for people unvaxed for over a year.
My daughter will tell you that ICUâs across the country are already short staffed. These same unvaxed nurses have been working the ICUâs across the country for over a year have not killed one patient But all of a sudden they canât work because they were not vaxed.
The people who die from treatable illnessâs because they could not be admitted to the hospital because they donât have the staff will be because the of vax pushers.
My daughter has a hard time understanding the people who chose to punish those who stepped up and did their jobs.
You have no idea what is going to happen down the road. Fact.
But keep the I know it all attitude. I could care less about the option of people that canât even admit they donât know what is going to happen in the future.
I know Iâm not.
Not a fan of government mandates except for government employees and in government spaces. For private businesses I support right of property for the business owners to set their own requirements as long as those requirements are posted for the public.
I support exceptions being treated the same as vaccinated persons for the same time periods (because a lot of people are ignoring the protection wanes for BOTH the vaccine and those having caught COVID).
#1 Medical exemption for a defined medical condition verified by a Doctor with written diagnosis and clear statement of vaccine contraindication. Such data mush be entered into the same database where vaccine administration was tracked. Inputs can be indefinite for ongoing medical conditions or short term with a defined end date for transitory medical conditions.
#2 Those that have had been infected with COVID and survived who provide a doctors statement clearly indicating that COVID was present and defines the test procedure and date. Such data mush be entered into the same database where vaccine administration was tracked.
#3 Religious exemption. If the individual has received a religious exemption from previous vaccine requirements and applies for a COVID vaccine exemption, perfectly fine. If the individual has a history of taking vaccines and is abusing the religious exemption to game the system, it should be denied.
WW
Yes, the ASTM3 mask is what he was referring to. A simple Google search of that term showed it.
Camp:So it sounds like the slow approval for 0 to 12 is a ploy to convince others to vaccinate?
That canât be right.
Also doesnât make sense to approve 13 age and not 5 and up for school.
No, what I am saying is that 0-12 cannot vaccinate, how we protect our children is by surrounding them with vaccinated people. As far as sense goes, a 12 year old is very similar physiologically to an adult, but a child that has not reached puberty has a unique profile, you have to tailor the dose for kids and prove it evokes a good immune response with minimal side effects.
And that takes time. Expect Pfizer doses for kids 5-12 sometime next month, and Moderna late October to early November.
Biden said we need to protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated!
Why?
I thought the vaccinated are protected from the China virusâŚ
mbus:Are folks who are for mandating vaccines indifferent to exceptions?
I know Iâm not.
Not a fan of government mandates except for government employees and in government spaces. For private businesses I support right of property for the business owners to set their own requirements as long as those requirements are posted for the public.
I support exceptions being treated the same as vaccinated persons for the same time periods (because a lot of people are ignoring the protection wanes for BOTH the vaccine and those having caught COVID).
#1 Medical exemption for a defined medical condition verified by a Doctor with written diagnosis and clear statement of vaccine contraindication. Such data mush be entered into the same database where vaccine administration was tracked. Inputs can be indefinite for ongoing medical conditions or short term with a defined end date for transitory medical conditions.
#2 Those that have had been infected with COVID and survived who provide a doctors statement clearly indicating that COVID was present and defines the test procedure and date. Such data mush be entered into the same database where vaccine administration was tracked.
#3 Religious exemption. If the individual has received a religious exemption from previous vaccine requirements and applies for a COVID vaccine exemption, perfectly fine. If the individual has a history of taking vaccines and is abusing the religious exemption to game the system, it should be denied.
WW
My # 4: Government employees who donât need it, donât want it, or who have antibodies. Well, to me thatâs all people too. Freedom over âSafetyâ
WorldWatcher: mbus:Are folks who are for mandating vaccines indifferent to exceptions?
I know Iâm not.
Not a fan of government mandates except for government employees and in government spaces. For private businesses I support right of property for the business owners to set their own requirements as long as those requirements are posted for the public.
I support exceptions being treated the same as vaccinated persons for the same time periods (because a lot of people are ignoring the protection wanes for BOTH the vaccine and those having caught COVID).
#1 Medical exemption for a defined medical condition verified by a Doctor with written diagnosis and clear statement of vaccine contraindication. Such data mush be entered into the same database where vaccine administration was tracked. Inputs can be indefinite for ongoing medical conditions or short term with a defined end date for transitory medical conditions.
#2 Those that have had been infected with COVID and survived who provide a doctors statement clearly indicating that COVID was present and defines the test procedure and date. Such data mush be entered into the same database where vaccine administration was tracked.
#3 Religious exemption. If the individual has received a religious exemption from previous vaccine requirements and applies for a COVID vaccine exemption, perfectly fine. If the individual has a history of taking vaccines and is abusing the religious exemption to game the system, it should be denied.
WW
My # 4: Government employees who donât need it, donât want it, or who have antibodies. Well, to me thatâs all people too. Freedom over âSafetyâ
âDonât want itâ = Find another job.
âDonât need itâ = have had COVID and have protection, falls under #2.
âwho have antibodiesâ = have had COVID and have protection, falls under #2.
People are free to now follow the rules of their current employer by finding another employer.
WW
This does not surprise me, over 50% support from Dems and Independents
Requiring shots or weekly testing is embraced by eight in 10 Democrats â and just three in 10 Republicans.
This does not surprise me, over 50% support from Dems and Independents
Out of all the things Iâve read on the topic, thatâs the most irrelevant.
I can tell you for a fact that not all hospitals mandate flu vaccines.
There is also no need for nurses who have had covid to get the vax.
It amazes me how many people have become what they claimed they were not in just a short time.
Freedom to chose has been thrown out the window. The holier than thou vax pushers have become mini dictators,
Ten twenty years from now we will all know who chose the right path.
But as always no matter what is going on in the United States I will stand up for people to have the freedom to chose their own path.
Should nurses who havenât contracted Covid get vaccinated?
Every single thing they accused Trump ofâŚ
President Biden is seeing two of his higher-ups at the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) quit their jobs over his administrationâs hasty push for COVID-19 booster vaccines as delta variant cases increase around the US.
mbus:Are folks who are for mandating vaccines indifferent to exceptions?
Yes. At least the leadership in NYC is with their.one size fits all No Vax, No Service Mandate,
JWK
Anecdotally, music venues that require proof of vaccines are finding attendance up and audience comfort levels higher. A possible boost to economy.
In the hospital we vaccinate, mandatory, for the flu. Everyone. Only exception is documented allergy to the shot. This is nothing new, we have to be safe for our patients. It isnât personal, it is a professional obligation.
Why are they the exception? Does their allergy to the shot make them any less dangerous to patients? So youâre being safe with patients with exceptions.
They should get medals.
They know what they are doing.
Could care less if they get vaccine.
I would recommend it.
Ceasar: WorldWatcher: mbus:Are folks who are for mandating vaccines indifferent to exceptions?
I know Iâm not.
Not a fan of government mandates except for government employees and in government spaces. For private businesses I support right of property for the business owners to set their own requirements as long as those requirements are posted for the public.
I support exceptions being treated the same as vaccinated persons for the same time periods (because a lot of people are ignoring the protection wanes for BOTH the vaccine and those having caught COVID).
#1 Medical exemption for a defined medical condition verified by a Doctor with written diagnosis and clear statement of vaccine contraindication. Such data mush be entered into the same database where vaccine administration was tracked. Inputs can be indefinite for ongoing medical conditions or short term with a defined end date for transitory medical conditions.
#2 Those that have had been infected with COVID and survived who provide a doctors statement clearly indicating that COVID was present and defines the test procedure and date. Such data mush be entered into the same database where vaccine administration was tracked.
#3 Religious exemption. If the individual has received a religious exemption from previous vaccine requirements and applies for a COVID vaccine exemption, perfectly fine. If the individual has a history of taking vaccines and is abusing the religious exemption to game the system, it should be denied.
WW
My # 4: Government employees who donât need it, donât want it, or who have antibodies. Well, to me thatâs all people too. Freedom over âSafetyâ
âDonât want itâ = Find another job.
âDonât need itâ = have had COVID and have protection, falls under #2.
âwho have antibodiesâ = have had COVID and have protection, falls under #2.
People are free to now follow the rules of their current employer by finding another employer.
WW
You are not for freedom. You indeed are for the title of the OP = Biden goes full fascist: Get the shot or get fired.
WorldWatcher: Ceasar: WorldWatcher: mbus:Are folks who are for mandating vaccines indifferent to exceptions?
I know Iâm not.
Not a fan of government mandates except for government employees and in government spaces. For private businesses I support right of property for the business owners to set their own requirements as long as those requirements are posted for the public.
I support exceptions being treated the same as vaccinated persons for the same time periods (because a lot of people are ignoring the protection wanes for BOTH the vaccine and those having caught COVID).
#1 Medical exemption for a defined medical condition verified by a Doctor with written diagnosis and clear statement of vaccine contraindication. Such data mush be entered into the same database where vaccine administration was tracked. Inputs can be indefinite for ongoing medical conditions or short term with a defined end date for transitory medical conditions.
#2 Those that have had been infected with COVID and survived who provide a doctors statement clearly indicating that COVID was present and defines the test procedure and date. Such data mush be entered into the same database where vaccine administration was tracked.
#3 Religious exemption. If the individual has received a religious exemption from previous vaccine requirements and applies for a COVID vaccine exemption, perfectly fine. If the individual has a history of taking vaccines and is abusing the religious exemption to game the system, it should be denied.
WW
My # 4: Government employees who donât need it, donât want it, or who have antibodies. Well, to me thatâs all people too. Freedom over âSafetyâ
âDonât want itâ = Find another job.
âDonât need itâ = have had COVID and have protection, falls under #2.
âwho have antibodiesâ = have had COVID and have protection, falls under #2.
People are free to now follow the rules of their current employer by finding another employer.
WW
You are not for freedom. You indeed are for the title of the OP = Biden goes full fascist: Get the shot or get fired.
You seem to be ignoring the first part âNot a fan of government mandates except for government employees and in government spaces. For private businesses I support right of property for the business owners to set their own requirements as long as those requirements are posted for the public.â
I fully support the freedom of people to make their own choices. With freedom though comes consequences.
Do you respect the right of private business to require masks and testing or vaccination (with the previous common sense exceptions)?
WW