Beyond time to blow up the Senate rules some more in regards to nominations

The Senate rules, as written, work only when there is a general environment of collegiality.

In other words, they don’t work in 2023 (and many years previous).

Tuberville’s military blockade shows that it is time to blow up the Senate rules via the nuclear option.

Here is what I suggest:

  1. For all military nominations, Executive Branch nominations to Executive Schedule Levels 3, 4, 5, United States District Judge nominations, United States Trade Court nominations and nominations to Article I & IV Courts, it would require 20 Senators to place a hold, equal to the Constitutional 1/5th of the Senate required to force a recorded vote. It would require the objection of 20 Senators on the floor of the Senate to block a consent request, in which case, a cloture vote and final recorded vote would be necessary. If 1 to 19 Senators objected on the floor, the consent request would turn into a voice vote on confirmation.

  2. For all Executive Branch nominations to Executive Schedule Levels 1 & 2 (Cabinet Secretaries and Directors of Independent Agencies), nominations to the United States Court of Appeals and nominations to the United States Supreme Court, a single Senator would still be able to place a hold or block a consent request on the Senate floor.

  3. I would abolish post cloture debate time for all nominations. I would also eliminate the two legislative day “ripening” period for cloture motions and allow them to be voted on as soon as they are presented on the Senate floor.

  4. For nominations described in Section 1 above, they would go straight to the Senate floor upon receipt from the President and would be entitled to a final vote on confirmation on the first legislative day following the elapse of 30 calendar days after receipt from the President. On the demand of 40 Senators, the nomination would be referred to committee for hearing, such hearing to be held with 30 calendar days of receipt of the nomination from the President. Final confirmation vote would occur on the first legislative day following the elapse of 30 calendar days from the last day of the hearing.

  5. For nominations described in Section 2 above, they would go automatically to committee and would be on the same time frame as nominations referred to committee in Section 4.

  6. I would eliminate the requirement for a committee vote. After hearings are complete, the nomination would automatically go to the floor of the Senate. I would eliminate the holdover period in committee.

  7. I would adopt an electronic voting system for the Senate and strict voting periods, similar to the House of Representatives, perhaps 15 minutes for the first vote in a series and 5 minutes thereafter.

The idea would be to create a 60 day maximum period for the confirmation of nominations, but also to make it far easier to confirm nominations faster.

It would also make it impossible for either the MAJORITY or MINORITY to block a final vote on a nomination. Every nomination would get an up or down vote unless it came after about the last week of October of an election year, in which case the Senate might adjourn before the 30 or 60 days ran out.

I would go farther and reform military nominations. Currently 0-1 through O-3 is appointed by the President alone and O-4 and above is appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate. I would change that so that O-1 through O-6 is appointed by the President alone and O-7 through O-10 (Generals and Admirals) are appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate.

I would also eliminate the requirement for members of the Career Senior Foreign Service to obtain the advice and consent of the Senate for posting to a particular country, only for promotion within the Senior Foreign Service. Patronage nominations would still require advice and consent.

Both sides have been abusive for years, but Tuberville has taken it to an obscene new plateau, depriving the Marine Corps of a Commandant.

No single Senator should have anywhere near that level of personal power.

Time to blow up those Senate rules.

And for those who will give the standard knee jerk partisan objection, this would likely HELP Trump a great deal if he is elected in 2024. Of course, it would benefit Presidents of either party and on an equal basis. There are no partisan winners or losers with this over the long term.

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no.

not voting is advice enough

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Quite the scene on the senate floor tonight. Tuberville said he would allow promotions if they were brought up on individual votes in the Senate. That happened tonight. Tuberville protested every … single … vote.

Sen Joni Ernst just said on the floor …

“We have done the best we can to honor the request of a fellow senator that these nominations be brought to the floor & voted on individually. I really respect men of their word. I do not respect men who do not honor their word.”

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His actions are approaching the point of being seditious.

Crippling the military over his damn fetus fetish.

Tuberville is a useless, racist sack of ■■■■■

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Blow up the rules and blow them up NOW.

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Every nominee gets a vote and if individual Republicans or Democrats don’t like that, ■■■■ EM.

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lol a few less stars over the force doesn’t cripple the military.

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Yes it does.

The military is already undermanned and this is causing it to lose even more talent.

And in any event, the fact that the Republican Senate Caucus united to rip Tuberville a new ■■■■■■■ over this demonstrates the seriousness of this matter.

To paraphrase a movie quote, “Tuberville should have stayed in coaching, because he is a walking cluster ■■■■ as a United States Senator.”

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they are way too fat in Generals. All they have to do is change the rank requirements for jobs.

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Unless I missed something, he said he’d let an up or down vote happen for individuals, and then the senate proceeded to attempt their unanimous consent again last night.

How did he break his word on it again??

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Don’t have problem with this given the above, although IMHO the maximum for Executive Schedule Levels 1 & 2 should be 90 days.

Also add the provision that failure of the Senate to have a floor vote by a quorum of Senators empowered to do business must hold and up/down vote in the allotted time. Failure to do so will be deemed as consent. As another poster said “not voting is advice enough”.

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there is no functional difference between not voting and voting no. How the Senate advises is up to the Senate

no. not voting is advice

Correct, it make not voting advice default to pass instead of reject.

It’s still not voting advice.

WW

Correct, the thread is about the Senate changing their rules. Therefore they can change the rules so that there is no functional difference between not voting and voting to consent.

WW

Our residential military expert, ladies and Veterans. :rofl:

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The founders wisely set it up to be a slow process. The “It’s a crisis!” nearly every week mentality out of DC is the excuse to overspend and reduce liberties. The US is going to go into hyperinflation if it continues. EVERY means possible must be used to restrain the left from causing actual crisis of hyperinflation.

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blow up the senate rules so the military can send soldiers all over the country to abort babies or holding individual votes for gaining rank…

beats a $7,000 toilet seat but it’s still a situation normal…

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

That’s it. Give him the R word. That’ll get him! Rrraaawwwrr!!!

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Except one senator is functionally voting “no” for every other senator.