Beta Boys-There's A Study!

[Smyrna]

@Eagle-Keeper

The modern intellectual says there’s no way one can define the terms “man” or “woman”. That is until a mentally confused person comes out as so-called “trans” and claims to be one of those indefinable identities.

…talk to me Goose…

[Steel-W0LF]

@margaretms2

But is there an actual correlation between body-type, physique, etc. and political affiliation, as opposed to a “seen as” or a belief?

Between 40% and 50% of Americans believe in ghosts. That’s interesting, but it doesn’t tell us whether ghosts exist or not.

I’ve never noticed a correlation in reality, but it would be wild. Like, the return of phrenology. I gotta look.

I think the real answer is: kinda

Not so much for size or shape of a man. But style I believe there certainly are. And beards kinda fall into that though there’s some crossover.

For example I don’t think you’ll meet many conservative men that will ever wear a man bun, or John Lennon colored sunglasses. Always exceptions but in general.

For beards think of grizzly Adam’s vs the game master on hunger games. People with grizzly Adam’s type beards will lean conservative in general. Folks with the stylized artistic beards with designs will lean liberal. (In general)

[LucyLou]

I have absolutely no doubt all the toned and muscular and buffed up posters would fit exactly right in at any trump rally because that’s where perception hits the wall of reality

[H_Arendt]

@WuWei

“Svelte”

The opinion of 203 students at the University of Arkansas. That’s awfully convincing Wu. Are those 203 to speak for all of America.

If 203 college students told us they believe in man-man climate change, can I take it you would believe them?

[margaretms2]

@Steel-W0LF

@margaretms2

But is there an actual correlation between body-type, physique, etc. and political affiliation, as opposed to a “seen as” or a belief?

Between 40% and 50% of Americans believe in ghosts. That’s interesting, but it doesn’t tell us whether ghosts exist or not.

I’ve never noticed a correlation in reality, but it would be wild. Like, the return of phrenology. I gotta look.

I think the real answer is: kinda

Not so much for size or shape of a man. But style I believe there certainly are. And beards kinda fall into that though there’s some crossover.

For example I don’t think you’ll meet many conservative men that will ever wear a man bun, or John Lennon colored sunglasses. Always exceptions but in general.

For beards think of grizzly Adam’s vs the game master on hunger games. People with grizzly Adam’s type beards will lean conservative in general. Folks with the stylized artistic beards with designs will lean liberal. (In general)

I appreciate your honest explanation. Yeah, I’m thinking more in the sense of hardware than software. Physique, etc. There are definitely a lot of style/grooming markers and cultural ones, even if they get jumbled and recombined.

In my experience, this arises most memorably in the context of mistaken assumptions. It’s like the time I assumed that this stereotypically gay friend of a friend at a party was a Democrat back in 2004, when we were already polarized as ■■■■■ Yikes. Then I was stuck, walking right into an ambush like an idiot.

Likewise, there’s an army vet who lives a few streets over: mid-30s, Michelin-guy physique, gleaming F-150, black tinted windows, army sticker/plate, flag with red line (he’s a fire fighter), introverted, gruff, Catholic, a little intimidating. He’s also liberal as ■■■■■ despite the cliches.

Have you ever had an experience like this?

[bigtwnvin]

“Rucking” LOL
THIS is rucking

[margaretms2]

[WuWei]

Polling is science.

You have 204 from Hahvad with a different story?

[Steel-W0LF]

@margaretms2

@Steel-W0LF

@margaretms2

But is there an actual correlation between body-type, physique, etc. and political affiliation, as opposed to a “seen as” or a belief?

Between 40% and 50% of Americans believe in ghosts. That’s interesting, but it doesn’t tell us whether ghosts exist or not.

I’ve never noticed a correlation in reality, but it would be wild. Like, the return of phrenology. I gotta look.

I think the real answer is: kinda

Not so much for size or shape of a man. But style I believe there certainly are. And beards kinda fall into that though there’s some crossover.

For example I don’t think you’ll meet many conservative men that will ever wear a man bun, or John Lennon colored sunglasses. Always exceptions but in general.

For beards think of grizzly Adam’s vs the game master on hunger games. People with grizzly Adam’s type beards will lean conservative in general. Folks with the stylized artistic beards with designs will lean liberal. (In general)

I appreciate your honest explanation. Yeah, I’m thinking more in the sense of hardware than software. Physique, etc. There are definitely a lot of style/grooming markers and cultural ones, even if they get jumbled and recombined.

In my experience, this arises most memorably in the context of mistaken assumptions. It’s like the time I assumed that this stereotypically gay friend of a friend at a party was a Democrat back in 2004, when we were already polarized as ■■■■■ Yikes. Then I was stuck, walking right into an ambush like an idiot.

Likewise, there’s an army vet who lives a few streets over: mid-30s, Michelin-guy physique, gleaming F-150, black tinted windows, army sticker/plate, flag with red line (he’s a fire fighter), introverted, gruff, Catholic, a little intimidating. He’s also liberal as ■■■■■ despite the cliches.

Have you ever had an experience like this?

Oh definitely. Molds are made to be broken. To me it’s the difference between what is “typically true” and what IS true. Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason, the problems happen when you assume the stereotype before finding out for sure. Though we all do it.

[H_Arendt]

@WuWei

Polling is science.

You have 204 from Hahvad with a different story?

You might get different results. If I thought this were. a worthwhile line of inquiry I would like to look at variations by political affiliation and age. Of course, the value of polling is a function of both sampling and question design.

I was wondering how much you were willing to conclude from 203 undergraduates at University of Arkansas, who probably filled out the questionnaire to get extra credit (or excused from an assignment) in a social sciences class.

[bigtwnvin]

Zep!

[WuWei]

@H_Arendt

@WuWei

Polling is science.

You have 204 from Hahvad with a different story?

You might get different results. If I thought this were. a worthwhile line of inquiry I would like to look at variations by political affiliation and age. Of course, the value of polling is a function of both sampling and question design.

I was wondering how much you were willing to conclude from 203 undergraduates at University of Arkansas, who probably filled out the questionnaire to get extra credit (or excused from an assignment) in a social sciences class.

Ok, see you later.

[Ben_Natuf]

@H_Arendt

man-man climate change

now we know, gay causes climate change!

[Samm]

@conan

@Samm

Even men … 100% straight men … find him attractive.

You do know hes a copy cat…

Of what?

[Samm]

@WuWei

What!?

A man’s man.

“Attraction” is not synonymous with sex.

[Tguns]

@WuWei

Tincture of Benzoin injected into blisters.

Pop them, bleed them, pick up that receiver and stop whining…5 miles to go.

[conan]

@Samm

Of what?

Clothing…etc.

Example Carhartt’s, Men’s Journeyman Flannels.

[Samm]

He’s an actor playing a role of a character that real men admire. What’s the problem with admitting that?

[FreeAndClear]

This is turning into the best thread.

Fashion debates

[Smyrna]

@FreeAndClear

Fashion debates

I am a conservative, hate shopping, haven’t in decades but FINALLY found a store I like for men’s clothing…guess?