Ben Sasse lets Trump have it. A voice from my side of the right side of the Aisle!

margaretms2 · 2018-07-17T14:51:11.530Z

Yes.

Tom Cotton put a hold on one of Obama’s diplomatic nominations and blocked the nominee until she literally died of cancer. So even one Senator can make a big difference, right? These people are cowards. Maybe they’d change their minds if Putin suggested that Trump propose raising the top marginal tax rate by half of a percent.

Konssurvative1 · 2018-07-17T14:51:37.408Z

Quite fervently at that!!!

Excast · 2018-07-17T14:55:32.134Z

margaretms2:

Yes.

Tom Cotton put a hold on one of Obama’s diplomatic nominations and blocked the nominee until she literally died of cancer. So even one Senator can make a big difference, right? These people are cowards. Maybe they’d change their minds if Putin suggested that Trump propose raising the top marginal tax rate by half of a percent.

And it’s like, what do people like Flake and Corker even have to lose at this point? They are leaving Congress. Are they worried they won’t get invited to dinner parties or something? Waiting on a cozy lobbying job?

margaretms2 · 2018-07-17T14:56:03.896Z

I don’t get it either, other than they’re pathetic venal spineless cowards.

merickson · 2018-07-17T14:56:04.600Z

calirepub:

The most patriotic thing any of those Republican politicians could do would be to immediately switch political parties and start voting against his agenda.

Actually, I’d be happier if they stayed on their side of the aisle and started voting against Trump (occasionally, as needed).
Liberals need principled conservatives as a back stop. (Similarly conservatives need principled liberals.)
The country is safer with a sane GOP. Sasse leaving the GOP won’t make it any saner.

Konssurvative1 · 2018-07-17T14:57:33.963Z

I agree. It is time for them to man up…put their foot down and be leaders…this whole do nothing attitude has got to end. I think they are trying to just let him ■■■■ up on his own. But that isn’t going to happen. Stand up and be counted congressional republicans…

calirepub · 2018-07-17T15:00:20.085Z

merickson:

The country is safer with a sane GOP. Sasse leaving the GOP won’t make it any saner.

That ship has sailed. The base of the party is Trumpers. If you don’t want to co-opt the Democratic Party, in the same way Trumpers co-opted the Republican Party, why not create/co-opt a new party for Conservative voters to have a home? I’m sure you’d find some who would cross over with the more moderate/conservative Democratic voters.

Excast · 2018-07-17T15:08:01.068Z

merickson:

The country is safer with a sane GOP. Sasse leaving the GOP won’t make it any saner.

The current form of the GOP isn’t going to suddenly become sane. It needs to lose badly for the decisions it has made and then take the time to reform itself around something other than trolling liberals.

Konssurvative1 · 2018-07-17T15:10:53.868Z

That party would be the libertarian party. Personal Freedom, and fiscal responsibility. I think that there are a lot of Trumpers who protect him, or support him because they voted for him rather than let Hillary win. I think deep down inside they are just waiting for someone else to come along and then they will vote him out. If I am wrong the republican party is lost.

Forcefield · 2018-07-17T15:10:55.914Z

Excast:

And it’s like, what do people like Flake and Corker even have to lose at this point? They are leaving Congress. Are they worried they won’t get invited to dinner parties or something? Waiting on a cozy lobbying job?

I’ve been harassing Flake on twitter.

The Hill – 16 Jul 18

Flake to introduce resolution countering Trump’s Russia summit rhetoric

GOP Sen. Jeff Flake (Ariz.) said Monday that he is working on a resolution to counter President Trump’s controversial comments made during a joint press conference with Russian President Vladimir P…

You’re welcome.

TommyLucchese · 2018-07-17T15:12:31.938Z

Konssurvative1:

That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. He is not a principled conservative. I am from Indiana. Mike Pence was a PUTZ. He almost destroyed public education in the state, he did nothing important, and did nothing of any consequence that wasn’t already started by Mitch Daniels before him.

I would take him for the next two years. But not after that.

I always get a chuckle out of the fact that Pence is only VP because he dropped out of the Indiana governor’s race, having literally no chance of winning.

TommyLucchese · 2018-07-17T15:13:16.809Z

Excast:

And it’s like, what do people like Flake and Corker even have to lose at this point? They are leaving Congress. Are they worried they won’t get invited to dinner parties or something? Waiting on a cozy lobbying job?

Yes. Without the sarcasm, that is literally exactly why.

FreeAndClear · 2018-07-17T15:15:38.030Z

Actual conservatives. Like the real ones. They are not monolithic enough to have a party. They’d drown in purity tests.

This is the same with ultra left. Communists and anarchists have everything and nothing in common at the same time

calirepub · 2018-07-17T15:23:05.937Z

FreeAndClear:

Actual conservatives. Like the real ones. They are not monolithic enough to have a party. They’d drown in purity tests.

This is the same with ultra left. Communists and anarchists have everything and nothing in common at the same time

This is why I advocate for sane Republicans in congress to go (D). There are many Democratic voters who aren’t far left. The party is moving leftward because the alternative is crazy-house. We could push the Democratic party rightwards, at least a little bit, if Republican voters would cross over to vote for a D.

Konssurvative1 · 2018-07-17T15:23:58.779Z

I had a fire Pence sign in my yard…He was no conservative!

Konssurvative1 · 2018-07-17T15:24:38.453Z

It’s like getting hired for a job because you are unemployed and can start tomorrow right?

armycowboy · 2018-07-17T15:27:00.265Z

margaretms2:

Unitl Sasse, Flake, and others in the Senate and House do something, ■■■■ them ■■■■ them ■■■■ them. Enough with the talk and the frowning and pearl-clutching tweets. Here are things they could actually do:

Compel disclosure of Trump’s tax returns.

Pass Mueller protection bill.

Remove Devin Nunes from HPSCI.

Pass censure resolution.

Subpoena his business records unless he liquidates his assets.

None of this will happen. Any republican running for reelection is too scared of Trump’s base to offer anything more than a meek tweet.

calirepub · 2018-07-17T15:35:30.614Z

armycowboy:

None of this will happen. Any republican running for reelection is too scared of Trump’s base to offer anything more than a meek tweet.

That’s why the Republican Party is no longer a viable party for rational voters. You can’t say that between a generic Republican and a generic Democrat that the Republican is the less worse option anymore.

Orygun · 2018-07-17T15:40:09.741Z

The GOP have long since capitulated. They will do nothing to actually fight against Trump’s interests- whether its trade wars or smooching Russia- they don’t want to risk the ire of the base.

Again Trumps’ new GOP and his supporters are now for…

Ballooning trillion dollar deficits
Being super friendly with the Kremlin
Denying the veracity of our Intelligence Agency Reports
Insulting and denigrating relationships with our main allies
Denigrating the U.S. and its “many years of foolishness and stupidity.”
Engaging in multilateral trade wars and massive tariffs.
No longer supporting “Family Values”- (Porn stars, payoffs, etc)
Summits with tinpot dictators that elevate them while getting nothing in return

Gotta admit Trump has shaken things up- pretty surprising how far the base will capitulate and give up their traditional conservative values.

armycowboy · 2018-07-17T15:41:25.949Z

calirepub:

None of this will happen. Any republican running for reelection is too scared of Trump’s base to offer anything more than a meek tweet.

That’s why the Republican Party is no longer a viable party for rational voters. You can’t say that between a generic Republican and a generic Democrat that the Republican is the less worse option anymore.

Oh I agree. I can’t vote for any republican (other than someone trying to primary Trump) until Trump is out of office. I fully intend to vote for Beto in November.