At least 15 dead in Maine

[Steel-W0LF]

@Jezcoe

@Samm

@Jezcoe

@Samm

@Jezcoe

@Mountain_Soldier

And my issue with this is…

The next time one happens, there will be more restrictions.

There will never be a point where the left says “Ok… no more restrictions.”

There is no point the left will stop at, given the opportunity.

In all of the years this has been going on. What restrictions have happened?

Jeese Jezcoe, where have you been? On Mars?

I have noticed that the onerous restrictions have not been pointed out.

Even the bump stock ban has been rejected by the court.

There are hundreds of statue restrictions related to firearms on the books … most of them enacted since the mid '60s. It’s not my job to educate you of the statutes. If you don’t want to appear ignorant, educate yourself.

And again … bump stocks are not firearms. They are an appurtenance, like recoil pads and slings. They have no protection under the 2nd Amendment.

Which of those laws are the most onerous.

And the bump stock ban has been struck down by the court… so…

For me it’s most of what the ATF thinks it needs to regulate.

Most of it is stupid that restricting serves no purpose.

Suppressors? Why not just outlaw car mufflers.
Short Barreled Rifles? Pistols are legal and more concealable.
Pistols with stocks? Rifles are more accurate and legal.
Pistols with stocks on them?

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

@WuWei

Same link as above.

Sources: Gun believed to be used in Maine shootings was purchased days before suspect’s mental health episode
From CNN’s John Miller

The gun that investigators believe the Lewiston mass shooting suspect, Robert Card, used to kill 18 people and wound 13 others was purchased legally just days before he was hospitalized and ordered to undergo a psychiatric evaluation, multiple law enforcement sources told CNN.

Emphasis mine.

The implication is clear … weapons of war induce psychotic episodes in normal people. Ban them all before they turn the whole gun owning population into killing zombies.

It’s just a more efficient and effective weapon to kill a lot of people in a short amount of time.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

Suspend rights without a felony conviction?

The key is Due Process, not felony conviction.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@Samm

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

@PurpnGold

Guess 2A isn’t unlimited

Come on man! This isn’t the 7th grade. You’ve got a college education! Maybe instead of African-American Studies you should have taken government classes.

You said “shall not infringe” right? You suggested an infringement.

Just stop. You’re sounding rather ignorant and stupid. I should hope that that is not your goal. If it is, it’s working.

That’s not nice…

Is taking gun rights from a non-felon an infringement? Should we also consider taking voting rights away for just being mentally ill?

Sometimes the truth isn’t nice.

Suspension of Rights does not have to involve a felony conviction, all that is necessary is Due Process.

[Guvnah]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@Striker840

Stop glorifying it in tv shows like “16 and pregnant”

Alas. First ammendment.

“Stop glorifying” is not a First Amendment issue.

Know what? With all the suggestions, you are quick to dismiss them. That makes you (yes, YOU, SWP) part of the problem.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@Samm

@WuWei

Same link as above.

Sources: Gun believed to be used in Maine shootings was purchased days before suspect’s mental health episode
From CNN’s John Miller

The gun that investigators believe the Lewiston mass shooting suspect, Robert Card, used to kill 18 people and wound 13 others was purchased legally just days before he was hospitalized and ordered to undergo a psychiatric evaluation, multiple law enforcement sources told CNN.

Emphasis mine.

The implication is clear … weapons of war induce psychotic episodes in normal people. Ban them all before they turn the whole gun owning population into killing zombies.

It’s just a more efficient and effective weapon to kill a lot of people in a short amount of time.

So what’s your point? Are you suggesting that the Second Amendment can be ignored because guns are more efficient as killing devices than knives and swords? Don’t you think the Founders knew that?

[Steel-W0LF]

@PurpnGold

It’s just a more efficient and effective weapon to kill a lot of people in a short amount of time.

Actually that’s not true at all. ARs or other “battle rifles” are no more deadly than any other rifle that’s similar.

In fact the standard round that ARs shoot is much less deadly than most other rifle calibers. It’s all just an appearance based phobia of the left.

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

@PurpnGold

@Samm

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

@PurpnGold

Guess 2A isn’t unlimited

Come on man! This isn’t the 7th grade. You’ve got a college education! Maybe instead of African-American Studies you should have taken government classes.

You said “shall not infringe” right? You suggested an infringement.

Just stop. You’re sounding rather ignorant and stupid. I should hope that that is not your goal. If it is, it’s working.

That’s not nice…

Is taking gun rights from a non-felon an infringement? Should we also consider taking voting rights away for just being mentally ill?

Sometimes the truth isn’t nice.

Suspension of Rights does not have to involve a felony conviction, all that is necessary is Due Process.

That seems ridiculous for 2A fundamentalists.

[PurpnGold]

@Steel-W0LF

@PurpnGold

It’s just a more efficient and effective weapon to kill a lot of people in a short amount of time.

Actually that’s not true at all. ARs or other “battle rifles” are no more deadly than any other rifle that’s similar.

In fact the standard round that ARs shoot is much less deadly than most other rifle calibers. It’s all just an appearance based phobia of the left.

Wonder why it is almost exclusively the weapon of choice for mass shooter?

[Jezcoe]

@Samm

All of them.

Well… that is convenient.

[Steel-W0LF]

@PurpnGold

@Steel-W0LF

@PurpnGold

It’s just a more efficient and effective weapon to kill a lot of people in a short amount of time.

Actually that’s not true at all. ARs or other “battle rifles” are no more deadly than any other rifle that’s similar.

In fact the standard round that ARs shoot is much less deadly than most other rifle calibers. It’s all just an appearance based phobia of the left.

Wonder why it is almost exclusively the weapon of choice for mass shooter?

Because it’s cheap and looks cool. Most of the same reasons why the military chose it.

There’s nothing special about it other than folks think it’s neat to own what the military does. Do you think most humvee owners are off road enthusiasts?

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

Are you suggesting that the Second Amendment can be ignored because guns are more efficient as killing devices than knives and swords?

Not generic guns… certain guns. Guns the founders couldn’t even dream about.

@Samm

Don’t you think the Founders knew that?

The founders knew of a musket… please stop. They had no concept of modern weapons.

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

Wonder why it is almost exclusively the weapon of choice for mass shooter?

It’s not.

[PurpnGold]

@Steel-W0LF

Because it’s cheap and looks cool. Most of the same reasons why the military chose it.

This seems like you are underselling the reasons why an AR15 is used the most in mass shootings.

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

@PurpnGold

Wonder why it is almost exclusively the weapon of choice for mass shooter?

It’s not.

Take the 10 deadliest mass shootings… what type of arm is used the most?

[WuWei]

Switch

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@Samm

@PurpnGold

@Samm

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

@PurpnGold

Guess 2A isn’t unlimited

Come on man! This isn’t the 7th grade. You’ve got a college education! Maybe instead of African-American Studies you should have taken government classes.

You said “shall not infringe” right? You suggested an infringement.

Just stop. You’re sounding rather ignorant and stupid. I should hope that that is not your goal. If it is, it’s working.

That’s not nice…

Is taking gun rights from a non-felon an infringement? Should we also consider taking voting rights away for just being mentally ill?

Sometimes the truth isn’t nice.

Suspension of Rights does not have to involve a felony conviction, all that is necessary is Due Process.

That seems ridiculous for 2A fundamentalists.

But not for a Constitutionalist.

[Samm]

@Jezcoe

@Samm

All of them.

Well… that is convenient.

Actually, it is quite the opposite. Infringements are by definition inconvenient.

[Guvnah]

@WuWei

It’s not.

Even if it were, just for the sake of argument, if they take away every AR out there, some other firearm will take its place. (And not something new, or a knock-off.) And then when they take that next one away, something else will take its place. Ad nauseam.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@Samm

Are you suggesting that the Second Amendment can be ignored because guns are more efficient as killing devices than knives and swords?

Not generic guns… certain guns. Guns the founders couldn’t even dream about.

@Samm

Don’t you think the Founders knew that?

The founders knew of a musket… please stop. They had no concept of modern weapons.

Nonsense. On both counts. The Founders intent was that the people have arms that were at least on par with those of standing Armies of the day. And they were educated, innovative men. They were well aware of advancing technologies in weapons. The fact is, many privately owned weapons of the citizenry were superior to those of standing armies, including those of King George’s Army. Rifles over muskets all day long.

You are out of your lane. You should pull over and stop.