At least 15 dead in Maine

[Guvnah]

@bigtwnvin

Other than confiscation and bans, what have the Dimbulbcrats suggested?

The “what-have-GOPs done” question ignores that the larger position of returning to morality and values has totally been scuttled by social progressivism. People claim to recognize that we need to address mental health, but ignore that the foundations that used to govern most of society have been razed. Unfettered immorality feeds the growing mental health crisis, or rather, we now attribute the growing disrespect for human life to “mental health”.

The opposition to moral foundations used to shout that you can’t legislate morality. Now they want to address immoral behavior legislatively.

[Jezcoe]

@Guvnah

@bigtwnvin

Other than confiscation and bans, what have the Dimbulbcrats suggested?

The “what-have-GOPs done” question ignores that the larger position of returning to morality and values has totally been scuttled by social progressivism. People claim to recognize that we need to address mental health, but ignore that the foundations that used to govern most of society have been razed. Unfettered immorality feeds the growing mental health crisis, or rather, we now attribute the growing disrespect for human life to “mental health”.

The opposition to moral foundations used to shout that you can’t legislate morality. Now they want to address immoral behavior legislatively.

Man… this social progressivism thing shouldn’t hit other countries or man… they will be having this problem too.

[Steel-W0LF]

@PurpnGold

@Striker840

@Zander

But that’s the rub. How do we fix the “root cause” of crazy stupid angry people? And on a societal level? Might as well wish upon a star.

Maybe we should just be honest with ourselves and acknowledge that this will keep happening like clockwork.

Why did these situations not happen in the 60s and 70s when one could order a rifle from Sears and delivered to your front door?

This is what I don’t get, when it was much easier to get a gun, this ■■■■ didn’t happen like it does now. Not saying it never happened, but, nothing like now. So one has to ask what has changed, and can we at least try to fix it. No, those on the left just throw up their hands and say what you just did.

What that tells me is in fact they don’t care about lives but about control.

As the number of guns in circulation increased in the US… so did the number of gun related deaths. There is a direct correlation.

But here’s the problem: “guns in circulation” has gone down. Not up. A lower percentage of households own guns now vs then.

Weird. It’s almost like you guys just assume things to be true.

Edit: I see this has already been covered. No need to beat my own head against the brick wall of ignorance.

[tnt]

@Guvnah

The “what-have-GOPs done” question ignores that the larger position of returning to morality and values has totally been scuttled by social progressivism.

Countries that are far more progressive than the US have far fewer mass shootings.

@Guvnah

The opposition to moral foundations used to shout that you can’t legislate morality. Now they want to address immoral behavior legislatively.

the steps that would lead to fewer gun deaths and mass shootings - universal background checks, waiting periods, registration and training, and bans on some weapons aren’t legislating morality.

[tnt]

@Steel-W0LF

But here’s the problem: “guns in circulation” has gone down. Not up. A lower percentage of households own guns now vs then.

Weird. It’s almost like you guys just assume things to be true.

No, that’s not true.

Households with guns has gone down. The number of guns in circulation is way up.

[Steel-W0LF]

@tnt

@Steel-W0LF

But here’s the problem: “guns in circulation” has gone down. Not up. A lower percentage of households own guns now vs then.

Weird. It’s almost like you guys just assume things to be true.

No, that’s not true.

Households with guns has gone down. The number of guns in circulation is way up.

Yeah. That’s less in circulation. Access to guns is down, not up.

If 4 out of 8 houses own 1 gun, vs 1 out of 8 having 6…… in the 2nd case access has dropped by 400% even though the number of guns increased.

Continue in your ignorance.

[DMK]

@tnt

But given the choice between living with restrictions making it more difficult to buy and own a gun in a manner consistent with other countries with drastically less mass shootings, or keeping things as they are and living with the incredible number of mass shootings, the republican party always chooses the later.

You are aware of what just happened in Israel, right?

How many lives would have been spared if the civilians could have defended themselves with firearms?

Don’t lose sight of the bigger picture. The mentally ill who kill with mass shootings are not representative of the population that are legal and responsible gun owners.

There is too much emphasis placed on guns and not enough placed on warning signs and mental health. IMO, the worst thing we ever did was to close down mental institutions. We need them back desperately.

Take the gun away from someone intent on killing people and they will find another way. Recall the Boston Marathon bombing which killed 3 civilians, injured 281 and resulted in amputations for at least 14 others.

How about 9/11 where airplanes were used to kill thousands.

Weapons win wars, save civilians and keep “you” safe in your home. IMO, you are focusing on the tools. As though taking the tools away will make the mentally ill just go binge on a Netflix series to calm their rage.

The reality is, we have bad people in this country and it is most important to be able to defend yourself and your family against them.

[WuWei]

@tnt

the steps that would lead to fewer gun deaths and mass shootings - universal background checks, waiting periods, registration and training, and bans on some weapons aren’t legislating morality.

Amazing.

[WuWei]

There should be a cognitive ability test in order to vote.

[Steel-W0LF]

@tnt

@Steel-W0LF

Yeah. That’s less in circulation. Access to guns is down, not up.

If 4 out of 8 houses own 1 gun, vs 1 out of 8 having 6…… in the 2nd case access has dropped by 400% even though the number of guns increased.

Continue in your ignorance.

Absurd definition to hide your ignorance.

Carry on.

No. That’s just called “math”.

[Publius]

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@Piper

@SixFoot

We’ve been talking about this since yesterday.

It must’ve taken that long for the salivating hoplophobes decide that this one isn’t actually a tranny this time.

Death toll is 22 for you hyper excited types.

They had to wait for orders from headquarters.

Where is this HQ?

If past is prologue at all… this event of mass murder will lead to more gun sales and less restrictions.

You guys won the issue a long time ago, but the reflex every single time to light one’s hair on fire pretending that guns will be confiscated in some dystopian communist takeover when if anything the most that will be proposed is to place minor inconveniences to obtaining a firearm and in the end nothing will happen.

You guys won… should be happy about it… except for the occasional mass shooting thing.

Well, the good people in Cuba didn’t win the fight after Fidel coned the people into disarming them.

See Fidel Castro’s “common sense” gun control pitch

The fact is, our Founders intended ordinary citizens to keep and bear arms [a contemporary fire arm used by foot soldiers] so they would be ready and able to defend themselves against a despotic government if necessary. The AR-15-semi is a civilian version of the United States military’s M16 and ought to be kept by ordinary citizens to defend against a tyrannical government.

The lunatic in Main, after expressing his desire to kill people, ought to have been dealt with to preserve the general welfare of the people.

JWK

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin, November 11, 1755

No, the founders wanted the militia to be armed in lieu of a standing army.

[WuWei]

The right of the people

[tnt]

@Steel-W0LF

No. That’s just called “math”.

No, it’s not.

‘guns in circulation’ has always meant ‘how many guns are out there’.

You just don’t want to admit you made a mistake.

[WuWei]

@tnt

Austrailia

Kamala Harris praises gun laws in Australia which confiscated hundreds of...

Coincidence?

[johnwk2]

@Publius

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@Piper

@SixFoot

We’ve been talking about this since yesterday.

It must’ve taken that long for the salivating hoplophobes decide that this one isn’t actually a tranny this time.

Death toll is 22 for you hyper excited types.

They had to wait for orders from headquarters.

Where is this HQ?

If past is prologue at all… this event of mass murder will lead to more gun sales and less restrictions.

You guys won the issue a long time ago, but the reflex every single time to light one’s hair on fire pretending that guns will be confiscated in some dystopian communist takeover when if anything the most that will be proposed is to place minor inconveniences to obtaining a firearm and in the end nothing will happen.

You guys won… should be happy about it… except for the occasional mass shooting thing.

Well, the good people in Cuba didn’t win the fight after Fidel coned the people into disarming them.

See Fidel Castro’s “common sense” gun control pitch

The fact is, our Founders intended ordinary citizens to keep and bear arms [a contemporary fire arm used by foot soldiers] so they would be ready and able to defend themselves against a despotic government if necessary. The AR-15-semi is a civilian version of the United States military’s M16 and ought to be kept by ordinary citizens to defend against a tyrannical government.

The lunatic in Main, after expressing his desire to kill people, ought to have been dealt with to preserve the general welfare of the people.

JWK

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin, November 11, 1755

No, the founders wanted the militia to be armed in lieu of a standing army.

Your opinion is unsupported by historical facts, e.g., see Article XIII ofPennsylvania’s Declaration of Rights, adopted in 1776:

That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; And that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.

Stop making ■■■■ up.

[Publius]

@WuWei

The right of the people

The people are the militia.

[Steel-W0LF]

@tnt

@Steel-W0LF

No. That’s just called “math”.

No, it’s not.

‘guns in circulation’ has always meant ‘how many guns are out there’.

You just don’t want to admit you made a mistake.

Number is irrelevant. They are in less households hence less “in circulation”.

Concentration is the opposite of circulation.

[Jezcoe]

@johnwk2

@Publius

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@Piper

@SixFoot

We’ve been talking about this since yesterday.

It must’ve taken that long for the salivating hoplophobes decide that this one isn’t actually a tranny this time.

Death toll is 22 for you hyper excited types.

They had to wait for orders from headquarters.

Where is this HQ?

If past is prologue at all… this event of mass murder will lead to more gun sales and less restrictions.

You guys won the issue a long time ago, but the reflex every single time to light one’s hair on fire pretending that guns will be confiscated in some dystopian communist takeover when if anything the most that will be proposed is to place minor inconveniences to obtaining a firearm and in the end nothing will happen.

You guys won… should be happy about it… except for the occasional mass shooting thing.

Well, the good people in Cuba didn’t win the fight after Fidel coned the people into disarming them.

See Fidel Castro’s “common sense” gun control pitch

The fact is, our Founders intended ordinary citizens to keep and bear arms [a contemporary fire arm used by foot soldiers] so they would be ready and able to defend themselves against a despotic government if necessary. The AR-15-semi is a civilian version of the United States military’s M16 and ought to be kept by ordinary citizens to defend against a tyrannical government.

The lunatic in Main, after expressing his desire to kill people, ought to have been dealt with to preserve the general welfare of the people.

JWK

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin, November 11, 1755

No, the founders wanted the militia to be armed in lieu of a standing army.

Your opinion is unsupported by historical facts, e.g., see Article XIII ofPennsylvania’s Declaration of Rights, adopted in 1776:

That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; And that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.

Stop making ■■■■ up.

I don’t know man… that reads to me that they wanted an armed militia instead of a standing army to me.

[johnwk2]

@Publius

@WuWei

The right of the people

The people are the militia.

And our Founders intended ordinary citizens to keep and bear arms [a contemporary firearm used by the militia] so they would be ready and able to defend themselves against a despotic government if necessary. The AR-15-semi is a civilian version of the United States military’s M16 and ought to be kept by ordinary citizens to defend against a tyrannical government.

[johnwk2]

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

@Publius

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@Piper

@SixFoot

We’ve been talking about this since yesterday.

It must’ve taken that long for the salivating hoplophobes decide that this one isn’t actually a tranny this time.

Death toll is 22 for you hyper excited types.

They had to wait for orders from headquarters.

Where is this HQ?

If past is prologue at all… this event of mass murder will lead to more gun sales and less restrictions.

You guys won the issue a long time ago, but the reflex every single time to light one’s hair on fire pretending that guns will be confiscated in some dystopian communist takeover when if anything the most that will be proposed is to place minor inconveniences to obtaining a firearm and in the end nothing will happen.

You guys won… should be happy about it… except for the occasional mass shooting thing.

Well, the good people in Cuba didn’t win the fight after Fidel coned the people into disarming them.

See Fidel Castro’s “common sense” gun control pitch

The fact is, our Founders intended ordinary citizens to keep and bear arms [a contemporary fire arm used by foot soldiers] so they would be ready and able to defend themselves against a despotic government if necessary. The AR-15-semi is a civilian version of the United States military’s M16 and ought to be kept by ordinary citizens to defend against a tyrannical government.

The lunatic in Main, after expressing his desire to kill people, ought to have been dealt with to preserve the general welfare of the people.

JWK

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin, November 11, 1755

No, the founders wanted the militia to be armed in lieu of a standing army.

Your opinion is unsupported by historical facts, e.g., see Article XIII ofPennsylvania’s Declaration of Rights, adopted in 1776:

That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; And that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.

Stop making ■■■■ up.

I don’t know man… that reads to me that they wanted an armed militia instead of a standing army to me.

“That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state”

Considering your reading comprehension problem, you must be a victim of a government school education.