At last something we can all agree on

Bill.in.PA · 2018-08-18T20:53:45.268Z

Donald Trump’s campaign slogan was “Make America great again”, which implies that America was not so great under the Obama administration.

CNN commentator, Angela Rye, apparently agrees, when she echoed New York Governor Cuomo’s comment, that “America has never been great.”

Breitbart – 17 Aug 18

CNN’s Angela Rye Claims ‘America Has Never Been Great,’ Blasts Trump...

CNN political commentator Angela Rye claimed on Wednesday evening that “America has never been great” and snapped at Gina Loudon, who serves on President Donald Trump’s 2020 reelection advisory council, for bringing up that she adopted a minority...

So finally something that everyone can agree on: “America was not great under the Obama administration”. Yay!

Of course, Governor Cuomo has since retracted his remarks, so unity was very short lived . . .

Steel-W0LF · 2018-08-18T21:14:14.959Z

As a non trump supporter there is one problem with this.

“Great again” implies it was great, became not great, and should be great again.

“Has never been great” implies exactly what it says. It never was.

Forcefield · 2018-08-18T21:20:19.070Z

And the march by the Cec to forever ingrain this one liner as a political weapon goes on. Maybe we should have 7 more threads about it!

Auto129 · 2018-08-18T21:23:39.418Z

When they imply that Obama made America ungreat, they deny the greatness of everything Obama didn’t change.

Which is pretty much everything.

It’s an agreement with Cuomo.

Bill.in.PA · 2018-08-18T21:24:49.377Z

True, but both agree that America was definitely not so great before Trump was elected.

I thought the election of Obama was an event of cosmic proportions. Does the apparent agreement that America was not great under Obama mean that “our lord and savior” President Obama (to use Jamia Foxx’s words) took office for nothing?

E! Online – 27 Nov 12

Jamie Foxx Calls Barack Obama "Our Lord and Savior" at Soul Train Awards,...

Plus, take a look at the full winner's list from the show

What happened to the thrill running up Chris Matthew’s leg at Obama’s inauguration?

Auto129 · 2018-08-18T21:32:15.521Z

I hope Cuomo sticks with this. The MAGA message doesn’t sqaure well with the conservative outrage at his comments. I really want to see Coumo and Trump get face to face, where they can’t run away from each other and debate this.

Bill.in.PA · 2018-08-18T21:36:45.563Z

Cuomo has backed off his comment that “America was never that great” and now says that “America has always been great”.

HuffPost – 17 Aug 18

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo: 'Of Course America Is Great'

He called his earlier remark about the country "inartful."

Auto129 · 2018-08-18T21:41:42.795Z

Looks like he’s too spineless to be president. At some point, some politician has got to realize that if half the population is below average intelligence, then there’s a half that’s smart enough to digest something bigger than a soundbyte.

Disappointing that Cuomo can’t take a little bit of heat and press his opponents on the contradiction. What a chump.

BillBrown · 2018-08-18T21:44:32.555Z

Bill.in.PA:

Cuomo has backed off his comment that “America was never that great” and now says that “America has always been great”.
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo: 'Of Course America Is Great' | HuffPost Latest News

Cuomo either lied then or he is lying now.

calirepub · 2018-08-18T21:45:53.603Z

Don’t take Cuomo literally, take him symbolically.

BillBrown · 2018-08-18T21:47:15.179Z

calirepub:

Don’t take Cuomo literally, take him symbolically.

The symbol of a liberal liar. That’s easy.

calirepub · 2018-08-18T21:51:02.442Z

BillBrown:

Don’t take Cuomo literally, take him symbolically.

The symbol of a liberal liar. That’s easy.

I’m confused.

Why is it the symbol of a liberal liar when that was originally a comment from by the White House Communication Director about President Trump?

Bill.in.PA · 2018-08-18T21:55:17.056Z

If you believe Cuomo’s first statement, then America was never great even when it elected President Obama.

If you believe Cuomo’s second statement that “America has always been great”, then logically that means that America was also great during the days of slavery, lynchings, and Jim Crow supported by the Democratic Party.

Auto129 · 2018-08-18T21:59:52.641Z

I believe his first statement. There’s plenty to improve on next time around. Hopefully we can get a clean start with no recession and maybe only one war at a time in 2020.

BillBrown · 2018-08-18T22:46:31.763Z

calirepub:

BillBrown:

Don’t take Cuomo literally, take him symbolically.

The symbol of a liberal liar. That’s easy.

I’m confused.

Why is it the symbol of a liberal liar when that was originally a comment from by the White House Communication Director about President Trump?

I don’t know what you’re talking about.

armycowboy · 2018-08-18T23:16:30.564Z

BillBrown:

Don’t take Cuomo literally, take him symbolically.

The symbol of a liberal liar. That’s easy.

I’m confused.

Why is it the symbol of a liberal liar when that was originally a comment from by the White House Communication Director about President Trump?

I don’t know what you’re talking about.

POLITICO

Trump adviser: Don't take Trump literally, 'take him symbolically'

“No, no, no, no, don’t take him literally, take him symbolically,” Anthony Scaramucci told MSNBC. “See, it’s different.”

Steel-W0LF · 2018-08-19T01:46:27.876Z

To be honest. With a few major exceptions, I don’t think Obama was that bad or did that much bad. I wouldn’t consider America “un-great” under him.

Most of that I credit to the Republicans not giving him what he wanted. And even though I despise Trumps personal life. I fully support what he wants to do policy wise.

DACA and Obamacare need removed, and immigration fixed. Other than that Obama really didn’t do a whole lot.

I honestly think the best government is a divided government. Give me a Republican President, an Democrat senate, and close to 50/50 in the house and I think it would be about perfect. The R president countered by D senate will keep the Supreme Court constitutional but fairly middle of the road, while a divided house will keep all but the most supported legislation in check.