At last examples of systemic racism?

Janet_Miller · 2020-07-05T17:19:29.829Z

Worked in the mid 90s for a company that has since merged with two others to become a major corporation. Their employment ads openly stated “Women and minorities are encouraged to apply.”

In all fairness to them, they never turned down white men for jobs or promotions. That was the management, & they were actually pretty fair & reasonable.

The attitude of the black & Hispanic female employees, though, wasn’t always so tolerant. There was at least one very quiet white woman they targeted for gossip and were disciplined by the supervisor.

I had applied months before, interviewed & gotten hired for a job with a higher shift diff as the hours were later. They openly expressed disdain that “someone from within didn’t get the job”, to which the supervisor told them they actually had to apply, which no one did, it wouldn’t just be handed over to anyone.

There were remarks made that “with her blond hair and blue eyes, no one will be looking out for her”. There were relatively few who fit that description. I guess they missed the part of the ad that stated AND WOMEN.

I left them after securing a higher paying position closer to home.

Janet_Miller · 2020-07-05T17:56:00.597Z

He took a swing at you and YOU got sent to diversity training?

Dude I’d have been circulating my resume and given notice when I got a better offer.

Bill.in.PA · 2020-07-05T18:42:41.643Z

Contrary to popular belief, there were a good number of African-American homesteaders under the Homestead Act of 1862:

nps.gov

African American Homesteaders in the Great Plains (U.S. National Park Service)

Personally I think compensation for people who were directly harmed by federally mandated racial discrimination makes sense. For example, federal law required redlining for FHA loans from the 1930s until the 1960s:

NPR

A 'Forgotten History' Of How The U.S. Government Segregated America

Author Richard Rothstein says the housing programs begun under the New Deal were tantamount to a "state-sponsored system of segregation," in which people of color were purposely excluded from suburbs.

A program could be similar to compensation for the Japanese-American internment.

lessright · 2020-07-05T18:45:38.069Z

Yeah. That’s going to happen.

PurpnGold · 2020-07-05T18:49:44.352Z

mwevans1234:

At the very same time that America refused to give the Negro any land, through an act of Congress, our government was giving away millions of acres of land in the West and the mid-West, which meant that it was willing to undergird its white peasants from Europe with an economic floor.

“But not only did they give the land, they built land grant colleges with government money to teach them how to farm. Not only that, they provided county agents to further their expertise in farming. Not only that, they provided low interest rates in order that they could mechanize their farms. Not only that, today many of these people are receiving millions of dollars in federal subsidies not to farm.

“And they are the very people telling the black man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps. And this is what we are faced with. Now this is the reality. Now when we come to Washington, in this campaign, we are coming to get our check.”

Martin Luther King, Jr.

Modern Conservatives/Republicans will stop liking MLK again in 3…2…1…

Bill.in.PA · 2020-07-05T19:44:52.797Z

Harvard claims that race-based SAT requirements are not discriminatory.

New York Post – 17 Oct 18

Harvard’s gatekeeper reveals SAT cutoff scores based on race

A Harvard University dean testified that the school has different SAT score standards for prospective students based on factors such as race and sex — but insisted that the practice isn’t discrimin…

When is systemic racism a good thing?

altair1013 · 2020-07-06T01:51:13.225Z

lessright:

They sent you to diversity training for doing nothing? Your job must suck.

It doesn’t. Cuz I don’t work there anymore. I filed an EOC complaint and they offered me a buyout. But this is not uncommon in corporate America if you are not part of a designated protected group.

altair1013 · 2020-07-06T01:52:58.658Z

PurpnGold:

Modern Conservatives/Republicans will stop liking MLK again in 3…2…1…

In your dreams! Keep hope alive! King embodies our conservative principles. There’s nothing not to like.

PurpnGold · 2020-07-06T02:03:37.777Z

altair1013:

In your dreams! Keep hope alive! King embodies our conservative principles. There’s nothing not to like.

No he actually doesn’t. Someone lied to you

altair1013 · 2020-07-06T02:11:32.096Z

PurpnGold:

altair1013:

In your dreams! Keep hope alive! King embodies our conservative principles. There’s nothing not to like.

No he actually doesn’t. Someone lied to you

About what? I’m a conservative. I don’t make a habit of lying to myself.

“I have a dream, my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character”

There are certainly more conservatives who believe this than liberals. I know, I’m one. If you ask 100 conservatives if they believe this with all their heart and soul, 99 will say yes. Why do you have a problem with that?

Jamerican · 2020-07-06T02:21:27.902Z

altair1013:

In your dreams! Keep hope alive! King embodies our conservative principles. There’s nothing not to like.

what

Well…this has to be one of the silliest things I’ve read on this board in the past 24 hours. Before making these types of asinine statements maybe you should do a read up on Brother Martin that’s not, “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character”. Hell, you can get a tiny clue on who Brother Martin was in that same speech and he definitely wasn’t one that embodied this current twisted brand of conservatism. You people keep on saying this dumb ■■■■ , but this current brand of conservatism would have rejected Brother Martin. They will use the same labeling today that was used when he was alive, marxist, socialist, communist and probably all at the same damn time.

altair1013 · 2020-07-06T02:24:27.138Z

Jamerican:

altair1013:

In your dreams! Keep hope alive! King embodies our conservative principles. There’s nothing not to like.

Well…this has to be one of the silliest things I’ve read on this board in the past 24 hours.

Really? Are you threatened by the fact that most conservatives admire MLK? Sorry, he is an American hero. You don’t own him. Get over it.

Janet_Miller · 2020-07-06T02:25:37.189Z

And to think a Hahvad professor criticized home schooling parents for possibly fostering racist values:

New York Post – 23 Apr 20

Harvard professor wants to ban homeschooling because it’s ‘authoritarian’

“The issue is, do we think that parents should have 24/7, essentially authoritarian control over their children from ages zero to 18? I think that’s dangerous,” Elizabeth Bartholet said.

Here is a survey on those who are home schooled:

Forbes

Harvard’s Lazy Attack On Homeschooling

Like the golden retriever who breaks into the dog treat factory, where do I begin?

PurpnGold · 2020-07-06T02:29:30.764Z

altair1013:

About what? I’m a conservative. I don’t make a habit of lying to myself.

“I have a dream, my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character”

There are certainly more conservatives who believe this than liberals. I know, I’m one. If you ask 100 conservatives if they believe this with all their heart and soul, 99 will say yes. Why do you have a problem with that?

And this is the only line of his many many many speeches that conservatives love to quote. But you fail to quote him on his well though out stances on racism.

A quote without context by the way.

altair1013 · 2020-07-06T02:30:46.075Z

PurpnGold:

And this is the only line of his many many many speeches that conservatives love to quote. But you fail to quote him on his well though out stances on racism.

What part of his stance on racism do you believe I disagree with?

PurpnGold · 2020-07-06T02:33:21.747Z

altair1013:

What part of his stance on racism do you believe I disagree with?

All of it.

Do you agree with his stance on racism?

altair1013 · 2020-07-06T02:37:11.859Z

PurpnGold:

altair1013:

What part of his stance on racism do you believe I disagree with?

All of it.

Based on what? What gives you the authority to tell me what I believe? The tooth fairy?

altair1013 · 2020-07-06T02:40:55.326Z

Jamerican:

altair1013:

Really? Are you threatened by the fact that most conservatives admire MLK? Sorry, he is an American hero. You don’t own him. Get over it.

LOL!!!
No. This brand of conservatism only admire, “I have a Dream”, because it makes you feel good and easy to embrace.

This is AWESOME!

People all up in arms because nearly all conservatives are MLK fans. You can’t accept it. Why do you try to create a fight where there is none? We like him and there’s not a damned thing you can do about it. Sorry about your luck.

GWH · 2020-07-06T03:34:20.451Z

Summary

@Jamerican @altair1013 reel it in a lot. I asked for an edit before I read through. There’s no need for any of that here, so I deleted your back and forth.

W_and_C · 2020-07-06T04:11:30.143Z

PurpnGold:

altair1013:

About what? I’m a conservative. I don’t make a habit of lying to myself.

“I have a dream, my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character”

There are certainly more conservatives who believe this than liberals. I know, I’m one. If you ask 100 conservatives if they believe this with all their heart and soul, 99 will say yes. Why do you have a problem with that?

And this is the only line of his many many many speeches that conservatives love to quote. But you fail to quote him on his well though out stances on racism.

A quote without context by the way.

Could you provide more context then ?