Armed Citizen Saves Cop

WuWei · 2018-09-17T22:55:37.708Z

WildRose:

I’m not the one having a problem accepting reality here. It was a good shoot.

It was a horrible shoot and the cop should be in prison.

WildRose · 2018-09-17T22:57:50.090Z

WuWei:

WildRose:

I’m not the one having a problem accepting reality here. It was a good shoot.

It was a horrible shoot and the cop should be in prison.

Thankfully the shooting team and grand jury do not share your prejudice.

By any measure of the law, the officer was justified in shooting him.

SimplyTrying · 2018-09-18T10:00:38.184Z

WildRose:

SimplyTrying:

WildRose:

SimplyTrying:

Seems my explanation of my opinion on this was deleted. Can’t really tell. So I’ll post it again.

I say this thread is merely anecdotal because it is just an attempt to further the good guy with a gun narrative. Tomorrow or the next day someone could post a thread with a good guy with a gun who does harm thus negating the point in th op.

It a good thing that a life was saved though so don’t go missing my point like so many like to do in this forum.

What it is, is a perfect example of how the good guy with a gun scenario actually plays out.

We have 1.5-2 million DGU’s in this country every year by citizens who are lawfully armed vs a tiny fraction of incidents comparatively in which criminals do harm with firearms.

In this case the life of at least one cop was saved and everyone but the bad guy got to go home.

That’s great but it doesn’t change the fact this this is merely anecdotal.

No, it’s a data point, it is a fact this happened and a fact that it turned out well for all except for the cop killer.

It’s only "anecdotal’ when you find the facts uncomfortable. This is a documented case not an unverified report of something that may or may not have happened.

The above is just silly nonsense? Anecdotal means I’m uncomfortable. Come on, you have to try at least to make a bit of sense. And everything I said was true. That’s why I reposted my deleted post. It’s not me that was uncomfortable. Lol.

Samm · 2018-09-19T07:10:58.158Z

WildRose:

WuWei:

WildRose:

I’m not the one having a problem accepting reality here. It was a good shoot.

It was a horrible shoot and the cop should be in prison.

Thankfully the shooting team and grand jury do not share your prejudice.

By any measure of the law, the officer was justified in shooting him.

I may be wrong, but I’m getting the distinct impression that you guys are talking about two entirely different shootings.

WildRose · 2018-09-25T03:06:46.882Z

No, nothing you said was true. Anecdotes are not documented cases that can be verified.

WildRose · 2018-09-25T03:08:07.055Z

We are talking about a case in Ohio from last year. He still can’t get over it.

SimplyTrying · 2018-09-25T11:54:29.477Z

WildRose:

No, nothing you said was true. Anecdotes are not documented cases that can be verified.

You really don’t get this. And you are such a smart person too. I think you need to reread the thread and take your nit pick blinders off and then maybe you will see what is actually being said.

WildRose · 2018-09-25T12:04:18.813Z

No, you simply need to quit making things up.

SimplyTrying · 2018-09-25T12:13:31.781Z

WildRose:

No, you simply need to quit making things up.

I didn’t make anything up. You say untruthful things though.

WildRose · 2018-09-25T12:14:58.307Z

You have yet to say anything accurate or based in fact.

SimplyTrying · 2018-09-25T12:24:45.185Z

WildRose:

You have yet to say anything accurate or based in fact.

I guess not much truth gets into your bubble. That’s sad for you.

WildRose · 2018-09-25T13:04:53.739Z

If you ever post anything truthful in a gun thread I will certainly notice because it will be a first.

SimplyTrying · 2018-09-25T13:32:16.845Z

WildRose:

If you ever post anything truthful in a gun thread I will certainly notice because it will be a first.

Now you’re just grasping at straws. Be careful, they are dangerous to turtles apparently.

WildRose · 2018-09-25T22:26:35.472Z

You’re flailing again and embarrassingly so.

WuWei · 2018-09-25T23:23:15.558Z

WildRose:

We are talking about a case in Ohio from last year. He still can’t get over it.

That punk cop and his fat assed partner killed a 12 year old boy with their incompetence. I’m not going to get over it.

They need to be rotting in a jail.

WildRose · 2018-09-25T23:25:58.904Z

The dispatcher who misinformed them and the driver are responsible for what happened, not the rookie who was dumped into a no win situation.

Both the shooting review team and the GJ ruled it a good shoot and properly so.

WuWei · 2018-09-25T23:29:34.448Z

WildRose:

The dispatcher who misinformed them and the driver are responsible for what happened, not the rookie who was dumped into a no win situation.

Both the shooting review team and the GJ ruled it a good shoot and properly so.

The rookie shot him.

Another brick in the blue wall.

WildRose · 2018-09-25T23:31:02.489Z

And properly so considering the circumstances. Cop’s aren’t required to wait until the suspect has already fired to then return fire.

The objective in a gun fight is to be the first one to put accurate shots on target and there is no prize for coming in second.

WuWei · 2018-09-25T23:34:35.796Z

WildRose:

And properly so considering the circumstances. Cop’s aren’t required to wait until the suspect has already fired to then return fire.

The objective in a gun fight is to be the first one to put accurate shots on target and there is no prize for coming in second.

Enabler. We’re done. You’re excusing the murder of a 12 year old because of a badge. Have a nice life.

WildRose · 2018-09-25T23:40:56.358Z

WuWei:

WildRose:

And properly so considering the circumstances. Cop’s aren’t required to wait until the suspect has already fired to then return fire.

The objective in a gun fight is to be the first one to put accurate shots on target and there is no prize for coming in second.

Enabler. We’re done. You’re excusing the murder of a 12 year old because of a badge. Have a nice life.

No, I’m simply going with the facts of the case and the law. Under the circumstances the shooter absolutely had a lawful use of deadly force created by the kid’s actions as reported before they got there combined with his attempted quick draw as the cop bailed out.

The dispatcher who failed to give them accurate information including the fact one of the callers had said she thought it was a kid with a fake gun, never reported that to the officers, only that someone dressed as he was, was harassing and threatening people with a handgun.

The driver then put him in a situation where he had no real choice about how to respond by dumping him within feet of where the kid was standing. The driver put him into a perfect kill box and he reacted accordingly.