if they wish to report on mistakes that were made and admitted to, fine by me. if they want to editorialize some deeper meaning from that, sorry, i don’t need masters to give me my opinion. maybe you do. facts are one thing, editorializing a conclusive opinion something else entirely. cnn sucks, their reporting generally sucks, they’re sloppy, they don’t do due diligence, they tend to go with any story that fits their narrative and ignore those that don’t regardlees of veracity. they are openly biased (which i suppose is good since they don’t even try to hide it anymore). I don’t have to do anything to cnn, they did it to themselves.
now, back to the simple premise. there is nothing you can do or say thats going to get me to judge any report before its published. i don’t have to either trust or not trust anyone to do that but myself. and i do trust me.
Stay on topic 
what even is that supposed to show?
Is that company as inept as cyberninjas were they are unable to do the simplest of tasks?
JayJay
285
Oh believe me I absolutely understand why you feel the need to do what you feel the need to do…
no you don’t. really, you don’t.
yes. in fact they had zero experience with hotels, just as joes brother had zero experience in building and hunter zero in energy.
Care to explain why disk array metadata and chain of custody procedures are being investigated if it is a simple counting audit?
you do have to know what to count.
JayJay
290
I do, actually.
The no way that in reality you would pay a company to perform a service for you for which that company is not qualified, and wait to withhold judgement until they completed the service.
You simply would not do this.
Those would be the paper ballots.
WW
Unless the head of the company had a Twitter account with which they repeatedly spouted conspiracy theories about Former President Trump actually winning the election. Then he would. Pity the guy had to take it down under the pretence of being an impartial auditor.
It’s a good thing there was their was a fundraiser for this audit. Due to their lack of having procedures in place for the audit there is now a question as to whether or not Cyber Ninjas violated Arizona voting laws regarding the secure handling of voter information as well as ballot security.
You seem to have no idea how Board of Directors work.
1 Like
JayJay
294
Ok.
And this excuses Arizona GOP from hiring an inept company to do a job for which they’re not qualified…how, again, exactly?
1 Like
This is just embarrassing.
I don’t get why trumpys literally are unable to admit they are wrong. Obviously this is far more involved than counting and the company involved is unable to handle the most basic of IT tasks. (Even if it was just counting this company doesn’t seem up to It from what I’ve so far seen )
2 Likes
Wasn’t that supposed to be last month?
So now you’ve hired a known wacko contractor with no experience who is past his deadline and has no projected end date right? Is this standard C y b e r N i n j a ?
and none of what you’ve “seen” has anything to do with the final work product, which is the only thing of import in the discussion.
which has no bearing on the final work product, which I’ll wait to judge till I see it.
i have no idea. all i know is i’m not going to prejudge the work product
you’re confused.
i’ve never “excused” or blamed them for hiring anyone. all I’ve said is I would wait to see the final work product before I judge it.
Ben, your position seems reasonable but it assumes the final report will be detailed enough to capture issues that may have arisen from their lack of experience. I’m not sure it will and if it doesn’t, then the final work product may seem fine but based on faulty methods.
An example of this can be seen in polling. If the authors of a poll say they polled 1000 random people then that seems ok. But how they determined those random people is important as it may turn out to be not so random under more expert scrutiny.
Just my 2 cents. I wish they had hired a more professional and experienced group, but at this point we have what we have and we await the results.
i have no doubt that if there are problems they will be identified. if the conclusions are unreliable because of them, then they’ll be unreliable.suppose however the work product is sufficient, Are you prepared to accept it? I do expect they’ll uncover more than a simple recount, but I don’t expect it will change the result. Even if it did (as close as AZ was), it won’t change the election. It could however help prevent fraud in future elections.
