JayJay
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It does not exist as a functional pipeline today, and so therefore would do nothing to alleviate the issue we are facing today.
Each of the other sections took on average two years to complete so “years” is as specific as I need to get. These things don’t happen overnight.
Camp
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Lousy argument for an investment heavy industry.
Buy North American?
JayJay
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I’m simply making the argument that Keystone XL would do zip for current oil prices.
And D’Souza is a) comparing actual existing oil production to non-existent oil production and b) comparing the ENTIRE Keystone pipeline output (which includes three phases already in existence) to make the comparison look better.
Finally it’s tar sands oil that would mostly be added by XL…most of which doesn’t even go into the production of gasoline.
Are you under the impression that Keystone increases supply?
Also, why are you citing a known liar, convicted felon and election fraudster?
Camp
506
Public sentiment will revive the project.
It will put downward pressure on prices.
Just a question of when.
JayJay
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Tar sands oil.
The most toxic, corrosive, polluting oil there is.
Heavily water-intensive to use.
No- it won’t appreciably lower oil and gas prices.
It’s ■■■■ oil.
WuWei
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Agreed. That is a very short-sighted view. Another Brandon issue and one with progs in general.
Two years. He shut it down 14 months ago. So it would be over half complete today. Don’t make it sound like decades.
The problem, poorly expressed by many, is not the specific pipeline. No, it wouldn’t make a material difference on today’s prices.
The real problem is one of toxic context. The deliberate and incessant assault on the very concept of using the fuel. To drive the misbegotten agenda of The Green Dream in order to whore for votes, in Brandon’s case.
The leftists idiots controlling the Democrat Party have been convinced that the hoax is real and WE MUST ACT NOW IN A DRASTIC WAY to “save the planet.” While conveniently ignoring the countries which truly pollute the planet.
Even Lurch Kerry admitted that no change we make here will make a difference globally.
I support the conservative (as a philosophy) approach to energy. We need to continue to research and seek “better”, more efficient sources of energy to be good stewards of our blessings. Steady, deliberate, well thought out improvements where and when they make sense and are viable.
What we don’t need to do is succumb to hoax-induced hysteria driven by idiotic dreams of Utopia in the minds of moronic neo-marxists. We don’t need to immiserate.
As we seek “better” solutions, we still have the lives we have to live with the resources we have today.
And as we seek, we need to make very sure that the “solutions” to the “problem” don’t end up creating a far worse problem down the road.
That is the philosophical conservative “resistance to change” so scorned and derided by progs. It’s not actually resistance to change. It is resistance to thoughtless change out of hysteria.
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WuWei
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Capacity is not for today, it’s for tomorrow. Always. You know this.
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That’s a weird response to me correcting your mistakes but if it makes you feel better, meme away.
At best only tangentially by reducing the cost of oil sand which might increase demand for that product which might spur further investment resulting in higher production.
It isn’t as like a new well being drilled.
Guvnah
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And we’d be a year closer to its completion had Brandon not stopped it.
Edit: I missed that you did say that in the post.
Still, it’s worth repeating.
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How can you tell the difference between the above and this?
Hysteria is a emotion and really based on how the receivers perceive it. Meaning it isn’t based in facts.
Simply stating that we need alternative fuel sources gets conservatives in a tizzy.
I bet if I asked every conservative here if we needed to find better alternatives to oil they would say “Green new deal hoax! Libs want to destroy us… arrrrgh”
This again…
Oil companies are such babies that they don’t want to invest in more drilling to continue to make nice profit margins? They won’t do this because of mean tweets?
And it would have no impact on gas prices. 
I’ve laid out exactly why oil companies are not ramping up drilling including quotes from relevant CEOs. Of course that won’t stop conservatives here from mouthing their false narratives.
At the end of the day, these oil companies exist to maximize their profits for their shareholders. Somehow I feel like having oil prices above $100 is doing a great job of doing that.
