Are there 89 Sexes?

[WuWei]

@Blackwolf

Why not simply show respect for someone’s wishes, when it’s something that takes minimal effort on your part?

Why should I respect them at all, much less to the point of butchering grammar?

[Blackwolf]

@WuWei

It forces me to not talk good 'cause: feelins

Respect is earned.

If the individual “earned your respect” would that change things, or would you still be so offended by the prospect of a grammatical inaccuracy that you’d continue referring to them by the pronoun you prefer as opposed to what they asked?

[Blackwolf]

@WuWei

Why should I respect them at all, much less to the point of butchering grammar?

Are you be nature inclined to be disrespectful of people in initial encounters until you feel they’ve earned it?

[Nemesis]

@ohknow35

I have no time to ask every person I meet what pronoun they prefer. Neither do you.

No one does.

To suggest otherwise is absurd and dishonest.

How many genders are there? An honest answer please.

No one is sayin you have to ask each person, but if its part of a conversation whats the harm.

I talk to people every day in passing and the conversation does not require use of pronouns.

I get the feeling if you had to work or associate with someone who identified differently to what you perceive then you would be the person with the issue.

I cannot categorically state how many genders there are. Gender and sex are different. As wikipedia will tell you gender is the range of characteristics pertaining to and differentiating between masculinity and feminity. I am not an expert in this area but quite honestly have no issue with any adult identifying as any gender they choose because it makes zero difference to me.

Unlike others I do not feel threatened by this.

[Janet_Miller]

“Feelings are equated with reality…”

Yes, many have really gone that far off the deep end:

Misgendered transgender person gets furious in a GameStop shop

[Jezcoe]

@Blackwolf

@Jezcoe

But yes… the people who get bent out of shape over pronouns… on both sides of this… have problems that I don’t even want to deal with.

I feel like both sides need to have a degree of grace during first encounters/explanations:

Associate at work introducing one coworker to another: “This is X, she works in accounting.”
X: "Nice to meet you! I prefer “they,” not “she.”
Associate: “Apologies. I’ll remember that.”
X: “Thank you.”

After that first encounter, if Associate continues to refer to X as “she” then X has cause to get upset. It’s about respecting another’s wishes, and for something that really takes minimal effort.

In some circles, it has become more common to state preferred gender pronouns upon introduction.

[Blackwolf]

@Janet_Miller

“Feelings are equated with reality…”

Yes, many have really gone that far off the deep end:

Many have, sure. On - wait for it - both sides of the issue.

But for all the melodramatic extremes that get caught on video, I can’t help but feel that there are countless unreported encounters between two adults where a request is made, that request is respected, and that’s the end of it.

[Jezcoe]

@Blackwolf

@WuWei

They is plural.

I’m not doing that.

That’s on you then.

Yeah. Who do they think “they” are.

^^^^ a quick example of “they/them” being used as a non gendered singular pronoun. ^^^^

[Blackwolf]

@Jezcoe

In some circles, it has become more common to state preferred gender pronouns upon introduction.

For my part? I’ve got zero problems with that. It eliminates the need for the conversation I used as an example. The bottom line is, adults on both sides should be able to navigate the situation with maturity and decorum.

[WuWei]

@Blackwolf

@WuWei

It forces me to not talk good 'cause: feelins

Respect is earned.

If the individual “earned your respect” would that change things, or would you still be so offended by the prospect of a grammatical inaccuracy that you’d continue referring to them by the pronoun you prefer as opposed to what they asked?

I don’t know, it hasn’t happened. Kind of hard to respect somebody who puts their feeeeelings ahead of grammar.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

In some circles, it has become more common to state preferred gender pronouns upon introduction.

I’ll walk away from somebody who does that ■■■■■

[Blackwolf]

@WuWei

I’ll walk away from somebody who does that ■■■■■

A bizarre hill on which to plant your flag, but okay.

[WuWei]

@Blackwolf

@Jezcoe

In some circles, it has become more common to state preferred gender pronouns upon introduction.

For my part? I’ve got zero problems with that. It eliminates the need for the conversation I used as an example. The bottom line is, adults on both sides should be able to navigate the situation with maturity and decorum.

There is nothing mature about trying to make me call you “they”.

And you don’t get to spell hamster with a “p”.

You aren’t helping these idiots by doing it.

[Blackwolf]

@WuWei

There is nothing mature about trying to make me call you “they”.

And you don’t get to spell hamster with a “p”.

You aren’t helping these idiots by doing it.

Okay. You do you.

[WuWei]

@Blackwolf

@WuWei

I’ll walk away from somebody who does that ■■■■■

A bizarre hill on which to plant your flag, but okay.

I’m bizarre?

[Blackwolf]

Not at all what I said, but okay.

[WuWei]

@Blackwolf

@WuWei

There is nothing mature about trying to make me call you “they”.

And you don’t get to spell hamster with a “p”.

You aren’t helping these idiots by doing it.

Okay. You do you.

Encourage that childish behavior.

[WuWei]

@Blackwolf

Not at all what I said, but okay.

Ok, they “hill”?

[Blackwolf]

@WuWei

Ok, they “hill”?

We agree to disagree. And since I don’t have a PhD in English I’ll concede I have no idea what I’m talking about and give you the polemical victory.

[WuWei]

@Blackwolf

@WuWei

Ok, they “hill”?

We agree to disagree. And since I don’t have a PhD in English I’ll concede I have no idea what I’m talking about and give you the polemical victory.

They take she victory. Our don’t PhD.