the distress these kids have is not due to bullying, or lack of acceptance. not sure what the point is of many of your other sentence fragments.

Then prove it.
https://www.thetrevorproject.org/resources/preventing-suicide/facts-about-suicide/

proof of what? theres plenty of proof that gender conflicted kids are in despair and much more suicidal than non gender conflicted kids

please either legitimately join the discussion or elaborate on your sideline heckling.

ah i see your trick here. you post proof of my claim, then ask me to “prove it” as though this is your claim

you’re pulling all the stops

yes heres an example showing how high the suicide rates are

no logic does not show that

kids are distressed and conflicted over their gender identities. adding more confusion will just make that worse. thats the lefts idiotic stance - make gender determination a psychosocial construct

thats my position. if you disagree fine. if you dont prove me wrong

They and their can be used for inanimate objects and animals as well, though. So can he and she.

The male bear walks to his cave.

The bear knows how much food they need for the winter.

The animal left their dung on the forest floor.

Agreed that they and their can be singular, but the word “it” isn’t any less dehumanizing than any other pronoun.

Heck, I am learning German and inanimate objects are always assigned either masculine, feminine or neutral genders.

Der Zeitungen is a newspaper (M)

Die Tasche is a purse (F)

Das geld is money (N)

Die, Der and Das are all the word “the”, but they change based on the gender of the object they are associated with.

The word “a” can be ein (M), eine (F), einen (plural), or ein (N).

It’s only English that doesn’t assign gender to objects, Spanish does as well and its even more ornate a system.

Did you not read these stats?

We’re not arguing if they have higher suicide rates, I never claimed they didn’t… the argument is which side’s message contributes to these rates.
Perhaps I’m wrong, but your argument seems to be that its not the harassment and rejection that increases the rates of suicide but instead the recognition, acceptance, and transitioning as recommended by psychiatric professionals that leads to increased suicide among these youth. Is this an inaccurate description of your stance?

I’ve already posted evidence that negative attitudes towards transgender people contributes to greater rates of self-harm and suicide. You have let to provide evidence of the contrary.

Here’s a well cited wikipedia article: Suicide among LGBT youth - Wikipedia

you rearranged the argument for your own benefit. i maintain that the despair of gender conflicted youth is not due to outside bullying, pressure… it may be worsened by it i will concede that, but it is not the cause

the left encourages kids to be even more gender conflicted with their attitudes toward gender fluidity, spectrum, letting them decide their own gender despite clear morphological and anatomical reality, dozens of pronouns etc. this is obviously dangerous and destructive

Evidence says otherwise.

Yet this is contrary to studies and the consensus of psychiatric professionals. Where is your evidence that discouraging transgender acceptance and encouraging the suppression of transgender feelings will decrease suicide and self-harm among these populations?

yeah sure 40% suicide rate vs like 5%

where did i say that “ discouraging transgender acceptance and encouraging the suppression of transgender feelings will decrease suicide ?”

What’s the 5% from?

That’s the alternative to what the professionals and those who consider themselves pro-transgender rights advocate. If that’s not what you think should be the reaction to someone having these feelings, what do you think the reaction should be when someone is questioning their assigned gender?

Why is this in Politics?

i am not a therapist. but i doubt assigning a dozen made up bizarre pronouns, genders with symbols, feeding them chemicals and encouraging mutilating surgery is the answer

baseline suicide rate of those not wondering what gender they are

because it has become part of the political agenda of the looney left