She was perceived to be I think.
7ranz: SimplyTrying:I do fear we (dems) will nominate someone too far left and trump will win again.
Did Trump become President by beating someone too far to the left?
She was perceived to be I think.
I donât so, but if thatâs the case then all the Dems currently running are â â â â â â â Except maybe Klobuchar.
but if thatâs the case then all the Dems currently running are â â â â â â â
From the right-of-center perspective, thatâs exactly the case. (Never mind the far right perspective!)
Just saying.
Thanks! I think Iâve never written that word down.
7ranz:but if thatâs the case then all the Dems currently running are â â â â â â â
From the right-of-center perspective, thatâs exactly the case. (Never mind the far right perspective!)
Just saying.
I mean the Dems managed to lose in 2004 when that election should of been a lock so that very well could be the case.
I donât think most voters spend any significant amount of time worrying about if a candidate is too âfar leftâ or too âfar rightâ though. That is some political nerd stuff.
none of the 2016 gop candidates ran as socialist totalitariansâŚ
Did Trump become President by beating someone too far to the left?
The reason Trump âbeatâ Clinton was a tactical mistake by DEMs in 3 states giving him 77,000 more votes in the EC while still losing in the General.
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7ranz:Did Trump become President by beating someone too far to the left?
The reason Trump âbeatâ Clinton was a tactical mistake by DEMs in 3 states giving him 77,000 more votes in the EC while still losing in the General.
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No doubt. Her campaign was cartoonishly bad.
It wasnât because she was too far left though.
Biden hasnât decided I think
YeahâŚBernie was the extremist in my opinion.
Biden hasnât decided I think
Well, he has to have a bunch of political experts determine the likelihood of him getting metooed before he decides.
Dems got lucky with Obama and mccain picking palin. Dems are worse than GOP at the political game. Clinton/kerry terrible candidates. One thing dems have for them is diversity / youth. Thats what they need to focus on.
No doubt. Her campaign was cartoonishly bad.
It wasnât because she was too far left though.
The fact that the CEC had several decades to portray her as a villain canât be overstated either. The Dems need a fresh face to run in 2020. Not a Warren or Biden or Sanders, who the CEC has been villifying for years now.
The fact that the CEC had several decades to portray her as a villain canât be overstated either
True, that probably contributed to the result.
The Dems need a fresh face to run in 2020. Not a Warren or Biden or Sanders, who the CEC has been villifying for years now.
Absolutely not. Thatâs a bad reason not to vote for someone.
Yeah. If the Democrats nominate someone in the hope that conservative media and Trump wonât spend months spreading lies and misinformation about them, they are in for a rude awakening.
All this âmoderateâ rhetoric is just an excuse to lecture people on why they shouldnât vote for Sanders or Warren.
The fact that the CEC had several decades to portray her as a villain canât be overstated either
True, that probably contributed to the result.
The Dems need a fresh face to run in 2020. Not a Warren or Biden or Sanders, who the CEC has been villifying for years now.
Absolutely not. Thatâs a bad reason not to vote for someone.
Iâm talking about electability. That enters the equation when selecting a candidate to support.
7ranz:The fact that the CEC had several decades to portray her as a villain canât be overstated either
True, that probably contributed to the result.
The Dems need a fresh face to run in 2020. Not a Warren or Biden or Sanders, who the CEC has been villifying for years now.
Absolutely not. Thatâs a bad reason not to vote for someone.
Iâm talking about electability. That enters the equation when selecting a candidate to support.
We saw how well that worked out the last time.
What was the âelectibilityâ of Donald Trump?
We saw how well that worked out the last time.
What was the âelectibilityâ of Donald Trump?
He won.
7ranz:We saw how well that worked out the last time.
What was the âelectibilityâ of Donald Trump?
He won.
Exactly, the question was about how people judged the âelectibilityâ of Trump before he won.