ARE EV's Greener than Gas cars?

[SixFoot]

@Samm

How do trees grow in such an environment?

Out of the ground.

[Samm]

@JayJay

@Jezcoe

@JayJay

EVs will be more and more used in the cities first

I disagree.

I see more EV charging infrastructure in Rural Maine and Suburban Virginia than I see in Brooklyn NYC.

Getting charging infrastructure into dense Urban areas is going to take a lot of money, but will be worth it in the long run.

I don’t think so…

You don’t need a lot of DC Fast Chargers in the cities because city driving is such that no one will ever wear their battery down to the end and require it to be charged up really fast.

You’re seeing DC Fast Chargers going up in rural areas more than cities because that’s where they are needed.

Apartments, etc can easily install even 120 volt plugs in their garages so EVs can charge. In the city, drivers can charge every day and 120 V/12 amp is plenty of capacity.

It can take 24 hrs to recharge a fully discharged EV on 120 v power. If you need to use your car daily, you’d better not let it get below 50%.

[Samm]

@SixFoot

@Samm

How do trees grow in such an environment?

Out of the ground.

With 361 foot roots?

[SixFoot]

@Samm

@SixFoot

@Samm

How do trees grow in such an environment?

Out of the ground.

With 361 foot roots?

Don’t know, haven’t measured them. lol

You’re seeking a really stupid argument over absolutely nothing. I mean, seriously, water gathering.

[Samm]

@SixFoot

@Samm

@SixFoot

@Samm

How do trees grow in such an environment?

Out of the ground.

With 361 foot roots?

Don’t know, haven’t measured them. lol

You’re seeking a really stupid argument over absolutely nothing. I mean, seriously, water gathering.

I’m not arguing, I’m asking. I really do not understand how there could be enough trees growing in an environment that dry for you to be able to make enough hydrogen to power your vehicles.

[SixFoot]

@Samm

I’m not arguing, I’m asking. I really do not understand how there could be enough trees growing in an environment that dry for you to be able to make enough hydrogen to power your vehicles.

Here’s where this started.

Just forget it, it’s just water. I really don’t care.

@SixFoot

@Samm

It’s easier to get it from water. Besides, getting it from trees releases CO2.

Water is either 5 miles away or 360 under ground. Not it’s not. lol

[Samm]

I still don’t understand how that environment could produce enough wood to be able to make enough hydrogen to operate a vehicle. I have looked for, but cannot find, how many pounds of green wood fiber is required to produce a pound of hydrogen, but my sense is, that it’s fairly substantial.

[SixFoot]

One of these hillbillies ought to have numbers. lol

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wood+gasifier+generator

There’s all sorts of energy in trees. It’s why the green energy left is destroying the lower 48’s LIVE forests in order to keep up with the ever-surging “biomass” demand. The amount of new plants popping up in America that are burning greenwood, tire chips, and plastic is nothing short of amazing.

[Samm]

Wood gasification produces a lot more than just hydrogen gas. Sure, you can power an ICE with the product gas, but if you want pure hydrogen, you’re going to have to put a lot more effort (and energy) into it.

[SixFoot]

Oh, I don’t need pure hydrogen. It can be as dirty as it wants. lol

[Samm]

Fair enough, but given the rest of the components of the gas besides hydrogen that comes from wood, you should have just said wood gasification not hydrogen.

There used to be a TV reality series on the History Channel called Mountain Men. One of the featured characters, Eustace, who lived in Appalachia, built a wood gasifier on the back of an old flat bed and powered the truck with it. Pretty neat. But being kind of a bumbler as well as clever, he stopped on a hill to do something and didn’t set the break. It rolled away from him and down an embankment and pretty much totaled the whole rig.

[LeroyBrown]

@Samm

Electric bus …

Yes, compressed natural gas makes for some amazing fires. The columns of flame are by design, as the natural gas is being vented away from the bus to allow passengers to escape in case of fire.

[DMK]

Oh my God, that’s awful. I hope no one was hurt.

[JimmyC]

@Samm

Electric bus …

https://fb.watch/cxVNzyeV_N/

Correction: Compressed Natural Gas bus

[FloridaYankee]

@Samm

Electric bus …

https://fb.watch/cxVNzyeV_N/

On a side note, that ain’t no hydrogen fuel cell.

[FloridaYankee]

@Samm

@SixFoot

I’m thinking more along the lines of separating and combusting the hydrogen.

Solar powered electrolysis hydrogen generators could become standard equipment on farms and rural estates.

But then some whacko will probably use the hydrogen to blow up a school and the Feds will put a stop to the whole thing.

They could do that with propane now.

[FloridaYankee]

@Jezcoe

@JayJay

EVs will be more and more used in the cities first

I disagree.

I see more EV charging infrastructure in Rural Maine and Suburban Virginia than I see in Brooklyn NYC.

Getting charging infrastructure into dense Urban areas is going to take a lot of money, but will be worth it in the long run.

Electrify America to build charging stations we've been dreaming of

[TheRedComet]

Funding provided by Volkswagen lol.

Aren’t they still paying the fines for Dieselgate? The total was somewhere around 20 billion dollars combined for US, UK, German, and EU fines altogether.

Which really puts into perspective just how big Volkswagen is. Most other automakers would have filed bankruptcy over it.

[Samm]

@JimmyC

@Samm

Electric bus …

https://fb.watch/cxVNzyeV_N/

Correction: Compressed Natural Gas bus

Okay. My mistake for believing the caption.

How about this one?

Electric bus bursts into flames, sets nearby vehicles on fire in China

[FloridaYankee]

@TheRedComet

Funding provided by Volkswagen lol.

Aren’t they still paying the fines for Dieselgate? The total was somewhere around 20 billion dollars combined for US, UK, German, and EU fines altogether.

Which really puts into perspective just how big Volkswagen is. Most other automakers would have filed bankruptcy over it.

Ever seen their main plant in Germany? Huge doesn’t begin to describe it lol.