Hopefully they’re throwing in the tire chips to help keep those BTU’s up. lol

I must say, I love the idea of burning plastic and calling it Green. Hell, I do that all the time in my burn barrel. Maybe I ought to modify it into something more useful. :thinking:

I expect it has a high BTU content.

What’s expected by green energy supporters and what they’re actually getting are very, very different. All you’re really getting is more of that scary CO2.

The ones destroying the world have been charged with saving it (while maintaining profits). :wink:

Interesting. Maybe there is a market for defunct solar panels as roofing tiles for people who want to impress their neighbors with their “greenness” but in fact really don’t give a hoot. :wink:

Nice dissertation. But one question …

Does “Generally speaking, ICEs are cleaner for about 50-75,000 miles due to lithium mining being and extremely dirty business when you include that aspect in the metrics. After that, even if your EV is powered off of coal, the EV tends to pull ahead in terms of environmental friendliness in terms of its active lifecycle.” account for battery replacement every 10-12 years or so?

I might note, that many of us put relatively few miles on a vehicle per year. Even when I was commuting to work, I only put approximately 35-40 hundred miles on my vehicle in a year. Since retirement, I have fewer than 29,000 miles on my 12-yr-old truck. There is no way that an EV would pay off for me environmentally speaking.

Alaska recently set in motion an initiative to deploy modular nuclear generators for off grid application. Currently, then vast majority (by area) of the state generates power with diesel. Hugely inefficient and expensive. The modular nukes, while expensive to purchase and require a long lead time to acquire, are perfect for off-grid applications. Eielson Airforce Base, near Fairbanks, is installing one (due to be online in 2025) to allow them to function independently from the grid and from their own coal fired plant.

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They probably have sack scrubbers too … like coal plants have.

:+1: :+1:

The reality is that so-called green energy is not as clean and green as many are lead to believe.

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This story has not gotten much exposure. Wonder why?

A number of electric luxury cars caught fire aboard the ship, which was then abandoned as the blaze spread throughout the vessel. According to Reuters, it is unclear if the batteries started the fire, or if the fire started elsewhere and spread to the batteries.

“The ship is burning from one end to the other … everything is on fire about five metres above the water line,” the ship’s captain, Joao Mendes Cabecas, told the outlet.

Does it matter if the Li started the fire? Not really.

Is it likely Li started the fire? Pretty pretty pretty likely.

Found the story mining for memes.

Wow, a unique hazmat fire burning on an abandoned ship on the open ocean. So just which port wants this mess towed to their city so a crew can try to fight this fire?

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At end of life, petrol cars are much better for the environment. We still don’t have a good way to recycle lithium-ion batteries yet.

Honestly, I think for small economy cars, gasoline and electric probably break even on the environmental impact front.

And yeah in your use case, the Tacoma (I believe that is what you told me you owned in a previous thread) will be a more environmentally friendly vehicle than if you sold it and bought a F-150 Lightning.

For a person like me, who drives 60 miles per day, it would be close on which type of vehicle would be better for the environment if that is a concern when I buy it.

I do have the advantage of the grid here being powered by Nuclear Fission. So when I charged the electric car my “juice” would be cleanly provided.

Ultimately, I do believe battery powered EVs are a stop gap solution until we figure out something else that can be used. Batteries have a TON of problems, some of which are insurmountable with our current designs.

And I think EVs are one of those things where the market’s consumers have to decide what works best for them.

In the future, I see myself having both a dinosaur burner and a BEV. There are certain things BEVs just aren’t suited for.

EV’s are also pretty much impractical for the time being for people like me out in the boonies and who have to travel considerable distances a day.

Science and technology may solve that issue, but it has not been solved yet.

So for the time being, it is gasoline internal combustion for me.

Fuel cells

Electric bus …

Wouldn’t want to be in the back seat…

Just don’t grill food over your barrel like one of my cousins on my wife’s side did once.

:pleading_face:

Yes the people in “the boonies” will need gas vehicles for the time being.

EVs will be more and more used in the cities first…where they first started out over a hundred years ago (yes before ICE car infrastructure was built out, EVs and Stanley Steamers ruled the day).

I’m thinking more along the lines of separating and combusting the hydrogen.

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Report out of India on “Blood Batteries”

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