Are Democrats starting to panic about vote-by-mail?

[gooddad409]

@zantax

@JayJay

Yes Trump has succeeded in both scaring people about the post office nd also damaging the post office.

And I see here many of his adoring supporters continue to lap up whatever he puts out there.

So mission accomplished.

Not the subject of the thread. Which is democrats might now be realizing what I posted on the subject here a week or two ago. Which is that mail in ballots are rejected at far higher rates than in person ballots.

I don’t want my vote rejected or thrown away by some partisan dem mailman so i will vote in person as always.

[Sknyluv]

@Smyrna

@Sknyluv

Well, if someone meets the requirements and the ballot arrives late by no fault of their own … why shouldn’t their ballot be counted?

Bam. That’s why and the line must be the same for all.

As mentioned above, if the ballot is postmarked in time, their vote should be counted regardless of when it arrives.

[JayJay]

@Smyrna

@JayJay

You do realize election ballot counting has always taken weeks, right?

Always.

You realize that’s what is being discussed, is what is the time limit for a ballot being valid?

Time limit for ballot being valid is whatever the states say it is.

So if they say postmarked by Election Day and arriving within a week of Election Day…then it’s valid.

Trump supporters’ need for instant gratification with having to know the result on Election Night is not my problem.

The only deadline that needs to be hit is we need valid results by December 14, when the electors vote.

No state has rules in place that won’t allow that deadline to be hit…unless of course Trump tries more shenanigans.

[Smyrna]

@Sknyluv

As mentioned above, if the ballot is postmarked in time, their vote should be counted regardless of when it arrives.

If it’s the same rule for all and is what has been agreed to, I have no problem with that. I just want all of the rules to be established, agreed to and applied to all equally.

[Munimula1]

@Sknyluv

Counterpoint.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1309171857774477314?s=21

But then today, there’s this:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1309455713882828802?s=20

[PurpnGold]

@gooddad409

I don’t want my vote rejected or thrown away by some partisan dem mailman so i will vote in person as always.

What if it’s carried by a partisan Republican?

[JayJay]

They have been.

[Munimula1]

@gooddad409

@zantax

@JayJay

Yes Trump has succeeded in both scaring people about the post office nd also damaging the post office.

And I see here many of his adoring supporters continue to lap up whatever he puts out there.

So mission accomplished.

Not the subject of the thread. Which is democrats might now be realizing what I posted on the subject here a week or two ago. Which is that mail in ballots are rejected at far higher rates than in person ballots.

I don’t want my vote rejected or thrown away by some partisan dem mailman so i will vote in person as always.

Makes total sense.

[JayJay]

They are getting a lot of mileage out of a grand total of nine ballots found discarded.

[toreyj01]

@Bill.in.PA

After months of telling people that they and their families would die if they voted in person, Democrats are rethinking their vote-by-mail push.

Some are rationalizing the change by blaming Republican for scaring people about the postal service:

A Democratic Party operative said that Trump “has succeeded in making people scared and distrustful of the post office. There were large swaths of voters who already weren’t sure about the post office, so people need to understand they have other options.”
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/democrats-vote-by-mail-postal-service-mail-in-ballots/2020/09/24/id/988542/

But the real reason appears to be a growing realization among campaign professionals that Democratic voters are much more likely to have problems filling out the ballot correctly and have it rejected. That is especially true if they have not voted by mail before:

• In Florida, voters are twice as likely to have their absentee ballot rejected if they’ve never voted that way before, University of Florida political science professor Dan Smith told Axios.
• In North Carolina, “Black voters’ ballots are being rejected at more than four times the rate of white voters,” per FiveThirtyEight. Overall, data shows new, younger, Black and Hispanic voters are more likely to have their ballots rejected.

https://www.axios.com/democrats-mail-voting-pivot-838522b7-8dac-42b4-a566-1ba93818654d.html

In swing states such as Pennsylvania, greater use of vote-by-mail by Democrats in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh combined with the greater chance of invalid ballots could easily provide the margin of victory to Trump.

Are Democrats starting to panic about the vote-by-mail push that they created?

I applied for a vote by mail, but the Michigan GOP blocked the ability for us to count mail in ballots before election day. We have to begin the count on election day and we need to validate on election day as well. This is intended to slow down mail in ballot counts so that we lose our agency and possibly our voice in this election.

I won’t stand for it, I will vote in person despite the increased risk it poses to me. And I know a lot of people who feel the same way.

The GOP plays dirty, and I resent them for doing this, but I will not lose my agency nor my voice because of their pettiness.

[Sknyluv]

@Munimula1

But then today, there’s this:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1309455713882828802?s=20

How embarrassing.

[biggestal99]

@gooddad409

That needs to be appealed. If they are “counted” past the election the dems will just keep manufacturing “votes” until they win.

If they aren’t there by election day then they shouldn’t count.

After all they have the option to vote in person and make sure their vote counts.

Even early voting in person is available(avoid the crowds with early voting). Easy peasy.

Follow state election law.

It’s really easy.

Allan

[Optrader]

If the Dems were smart, they’d have people handing out ballots at all the riots. That way the people who are afraid to gather in person to vote can go ahead and vote while they’re gathered together to protest! Just tell them to be sure NOT to burn down their post office after dropping off their vote!!

[highroller]

@JayJay

Yes Trump has succeeded in both scaring people about the post office and also damaging the post office.

Yep, Mission Accomplished. Well done Republicans.

[JayJay]

@thinkingman

can you just imagine how much deep blue harvesting is going to be needed to make up for the incorrect ballots.

this could drag out for weeks

i bet it’s why the overwhelming partisan democrat PA supreme court decided arbitrarily that ballots can just keep on a‘being counted for weeks

They decided no such thing.

[DMK]

@Optrader

If the Dems were smart, they’d have people handing out ballots at all the riots. That way the people who are afraid to gather in person to vote can go ahead and vote while they’re gathered together to protest! Just tell them to be sure NOT to burn down their post office after dropping off their vote!!

Or shoot the mailman.

[thinkingman]

@gooddad409

@thinkingman

@gooddad409

@thinkingman

can you just imagine how much deep blue harvesting is going to be needed to make up for the incorrect ballots.

this could drag out for weeks

i bet it’s why the overwhelming partisan democrat PA supreme court decided arbitrarily that ballots can just keep on a‘being counted for weeks

That needs to be appealed. If they are “counted” past the election the dems will just keep manufacturing “votes” until they win.

If they aren’t there by election day then they shouldn’t count.

After all they have the option to vote in person and make sure their vote counts.

Even early voting in person is available(avoid the crowds with early voting). Easy peasy.

thats their plan alright.

That was the plan in Fla in 2000 as well. They were gonna keep recounting until magically Gore had the lead and then suddenly stop recounting there.

i always found it odd that recounts never count until the democrat wins

this will be going on again

could be wrong, and i hope i am

but i doubt it

[thinkingman]

lol “gop plays dirty”

the astonishment over them not realizing this is really the democrats makes my nose bleed

[wiley8425]

Yeah sure. It’s Democrats that are panicking.

Hook. In. Mouth.

[mbus]

@JayJay

Yes Trump has succeeded in both scaring people about the post office and also damaging the post office.

And I see here many of his adoring supporters continue to lap up whatever he puts out there.

So mission accomplished.

This is Trump’s brilliance. The man understands his people and knows fear and mistrust are terrific levers. Nothing new there; all leaders employ this strategy at one time or another.

But what is new is we live in informational silos allowing a leader to stoke fear to his followers via Fox News for example, then walk it back to the Times and suffer no loss of support; as few people get information beyond once source.

He has done this countless times to great success.

Brilliant.