Another Timely Message for Beto and his Fellow Gun Banners

WuWei · 2019-09-29T00:39:57.177Z

Ah, I should have finished reading it.

gooddad409 · 2019-09-29T01:44:56.251Z

WuWei:

gooddad409:

WildRose:

Defense of third parties by civilians using deadly force is not at all uncommon in this country.

It saved a number of folks at a church not that far away. I think it was the Burnette Church of Christ?

Anyway the shooter came in and started shooting , a member ran to his car and grabbed a pistol and wound up cutting the attack short.

One person was killed instead of possibly a lot. A black muslim fellow i believe was the shooter.

Sutherland Springs?

Burnette Chapel church of christ. Antioch, tn.

gooddad409 · 2019-09-29T01:45:25.394Z

WildRose:

Nope, different event.

News

That’s it.

SimplyTrying · 2019-09-29T14:02:24.238Z

WildRose:

No and that was never the meaningt of “well regulated” to start with.

Yes it was.

WildRose · 2019-09-29T22:24:50.352Z

No it wasn’t and we know the original meaning of the phrase 'Well Regulated".

“A well regulated clock keeps proper time”.

It simply means to work as designed and/or efficiently.

You can’t quickly raise a civilian militia that is either effective or efficient in times of emergency unless they are already armed and well versed in using their arms.

The following are taken from the Oxford English Dictionary , and bracket in time the writing of the 2nd amendment:

1709: “If a liberal Education has formed in us well-regulated Appetites and worthy Inclinations.”

1714: “The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world.”

1812: “The equation of time … is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sun dial.”

1848: “A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor.”

1862: “It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding.”

1894: “The newspaper, a never wanting adjunct to every well-regulated American embryo city.”

https://constitution.org/cons/wellregu.htm

armsandthelaw.com

WellRegulatedinold%20literature.pdf

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SimplyTrying · 2019-09-30T10:00:19.616Z

WildRose:

No it wasn’t and we know the original meaning of the phrase 'Well Regulated".

“A well regulated clock keeps proper time”.

It simply means to work as designed and/or efficiently.

You can’t quickly raise a civilian militia that is either effective or efficient in times of emergency unless they are already armed and well versed in using their arms.

The following are taken from the Oxford English Dictionary , and bracket in time the writing of the 2nd amendment:

1709: “If a liberal Education has formed in us well-regulated Appetites and worthy Inclinations.”

1714: “The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world.”

1812: “The equation of time … is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sun dial.”

1848: “A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor.”

1862: “It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding.”

1894: “The newspaper, a never wanting adjunct to every well-regulated American embryo city.”

https://constitution.org/cons/wellregu.htm

https://armsandthelaw.com/archives/WellRegulatedinold%20literature.pdf

Yes, words and phrases sometimes have two meanings. So what. It doesn’t negate the fact that the national guard was what the founders envisioned.

WildRose · 2019-10-01T00:37:45.659Z

Well no, that was the only meaning of the phrase at the time as demonstrated and the NG could not have been what they were referring to since the only example they had to work with were the colonial militias.

gooddad409 · 2019-10-01T00:56:21.531Z

Don’t confuse him with facts.

WildRose · 2019-10-01T07:59:38.887Z

Facts?

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Facts are irrelevant in gun discussions.

mobulis · 2019-10-01T08:10:03.995Z

WildRose:

Well no, that was the only meaning of the phrase at the time as demonstrated and the NG could not have been what they were referring to since the only example they had to work with were the colonial militias.

The reason for the militia to exist is because they didn’t have or want a standing army, since we have one there’s no need for all the guns.

WildRose · 2019-10-01T08:20:46.412Z

Then start your repeal petition.

westaussie · 2019-10-02T10:09:44.832Z

That would explain the idiocy claiming that video games are to blame.

WildRose · 2019-10-03T03:13:18.902Z

They are one of many factors influencing young mass shooters.

westaussie · 2019-10-03T03:24:26.272Z

Do other countries youth have access to those same video games? Do other countries’ youth who watch those same videos become mass shooters?

WildRose · 2019-10-03T03:58:08.527Z

False premise.

We’re talking about one factor of many. There are countries in this world with far more viscous killers than our own.

westaussie · 2019-10-03T06:05:11.845Z

Did you mean vicious? How does that ameliorate the situation in the USA?

gooddad409 · 2019-10-03T20:54:47.852Z

WildRose:

Facts?

Facts are irrelevant in gun discussions.

That’s true as regards the left. Had a good time at the shooting range today and can report that i still have seen my gun move on its own.

WildRose · 2019-10-03T21:20:28.752Z

Our situation is just fine, if we could manage to get the democrats to put the focus where it belongs on criminal gangs and the mentally unstable it would be much better.

westaussie · 2019-10-04T05:52:33.850Z

If you are so concerned about mental health then support for universal health care when be a good place to start.

WildRose · 2019-10-04T06:12:50.739Z

No, UHC certainly would not be the solution to dealing with the dangerously mentally ill.

They can easily be identified and dealt with appropriately without UHC.