Another thought for a Sunday morning

koushi_shinigami · 2018-04-30T02:54:01.350Z

adroit:

How have scientists done this?

Unintentionally.

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Rx4liberty · 2018-04-30T03:34:38.482Z

The quote did say unintentionally

koushi_shinigami · 2018-04-30T10:42:44.972Z

Rx4liberty:

The quote did say unintentionally

Three quote reads like nonsense

JayJay · 2018-04-30T10:45:52.963Z

koushi_shinigami:

Rx4liberty:

The quote did say unintentionally

Three quote reads like nonsense

It doesn’t just read that way.

It is that way.

ImRightYoureWrong · 2018-04-30T11:19:26.768Z

Ya those darn scientists finding vaccines for polio, looking for cures to cancer, looking for ways to grow food cheaper, developing mass communications. If only they just sat on their hands and prayed for the last century.

Rx4liberty · 2018-04-30T12:07:11.793Z

Interesting
My attention was drawn to the idea of vast spiritual resources.

Rx4liberty · 2018-04-30T12:11:24.533Z

You don’t think that science these days is mostly secular?
I do.

adroit · 2018-04-30T12:20:48.421Z

Rx4liberty:

The quote did say unintentionally

By unintentionally doing what?

Rx4liberty · 2018-04-30T12:22:00.817Z

That’s funny
I don’t believe the author intended to put across the idea to give up doing science and start praying for good health.
Try to take it up a notch

adroit · 2018-04-30T12:29:23.417Z

Rx4liberty:

You don’t think that science these days is mostly secular?
I do.

Why would it not be secular? It’s the study of the natural/physical world. The metaphysical is outside its purview.

ImRightYoureWrong · 2018-04-30T12:30:17.710Z

Science has brought more joy, wonder, and “in touchness”, not to mention the practical benefits, to my life than religion has ever come close to doing. You know I might make a thread saying Christianity is holding ya’ll back! Unintentionally of course. You guys aren’t really meaning to hold back society.

Rx4liberty · 2018-04-30T13:54:34.074Z

I think that religion is more concerned with the scientist as opposed to any controversy with science.
Knowledge without spiritual insight and wisdom is the idea here. Your missing the point.
Again, for a Sunday morning quote, the idea of a vast spiritual resource was more of an attention getter for me.

I’m trying to find comfort in the secular science of nuclear weaponry

ImRightYoureWrong · 2018-04-30T15:44:36.320Z

western religions like christianity inhibit spirituality far more than science does.

ImRightYoureWrong · 2018-04-30T15:46:03.591Z

Unintentionally of course

Rx4liberty · 2018-04-30T17:01:37.582Z

And what does an atheist know about spirituality? You sure your completely atheist?

I tend to agree with your statement about inhibiting spirituality but western religions over science is missing the picture imho
The lack of combining of spirituality (real religious experience or spiritual insight) with science and philosophy or embracing any one of the three to the exclusion of the other two will inhibit real religious experience (spirituality)
Some Westerners do it and it’s not exclusive to them, it’s wide spread among all three disciplines imho.

ImRightYoureWrong · 2018-04-30T17:15:10.891Z

Being spiritual doesn’t require belief in a God. Being an atheist doesn’t mean you are a 100% naturalist.

Rx4liberty · 2018-04-30T17:27:54.935Z

If your implying that atheist recognizes spirituality and has meaning and value then this definition implies religion imho.
Maybe you should try in your mind to separate what the traditional or institutional religions of the world have done to our minds from real or personal religious experience??
If someone uses spiritual insight and philosophy as part of their development of science, nothing but good things happen.
If you want to separate a personal God from all this, it’s your choice. But I can’t do that.

Rx4liberty · 2018-04-30T17:36:33.029Z

On the topic of unintentional:
I recall reading life history of Albert Einstein a long time ago
He was genuinely surprised when someone took his E=MC2 from its pure discovery of nature state to the state of weaponry.

ImRightYoureWrong · 2018-04-30T18:44:34.808Z

It doesn’t imply religion at all but rather an ontological viewpoint about the nature of reality. It cab be discussed in purely philosophical terms without the need for “God” or “Worship”

ImRightYoureWrong · 2018-04-30T18:45:13.557Z

And people have used religion as a weapon through history. So what?