Another super-spreader event involving vaccinated sophisticated Democrats?

Bill.in.PA · 2021-08-14T19:24:30.190Z

No, do you have any insights?

tzu · 2021-08-14T19:25:18.128Z

It’s not super likely that the event staff are residents.

Bill.in.PA · 2021-08-14T19:26:59.310Z

I have been to the Outer Banks. Most of the people working there rent a room during the summer tourist season, so they are temporary residents.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2021-08-14T19:27:20.255Z

You understand that the Vineyard is larger that just Obama’s house, right?

tzu · 2021-08-14T19:31:51.940Z

The Vineyard is expensive. Prohibitively so. It’s not really a place where people are seasonally bunked, because real estate is at a premium. There are a few moored vessel arrangements, but even those are very high end.

That’s why it’s not so simple just to do the whole Obama Party = outbreak. For starters, the event was for the tested/vaxxed.

Most everyone who doesn’t own or rent on the islands is a day transient. That’s just a high vector environment on its own.

Bill.in.PA · 2021-08-14T19:34:34.393Z

According to Wikipedia there are 16,535 permanent residents. The summer population is probably a couple of times higher. Between guests all the support staff, reporters, security, etc. the total number people there for Obama’s party could have exceeded 1000 people.

74 people got infected on the island. Several were workers in places where Obama’s guests were hanging out. Given the infection rate, it is likely that guests and related visitors left the island with COVID or brought it to the island.

tzu · 2021-08-14T19:38:50.195Z

The islands get a small summer bump, but nothing like the Keys, Banks or Gulf spots. The Vineyard is an enclave, Bill, not a tourist trap. Think more Newport, RI, or City Island and less Ocean City or Orange Beach. Most everyone going to MV or Nan is a day tripper.

Bill.in.PA · 2021-08-14T19:46:24.565Z

I assume that the workers in the hotels and restaurants stay on the island.

It is a 45-minute ferry ride to the mainland. They would spend more time commuting than working if they had to sleep off the island.

tzu · 2021-08-14T19:50:01.946Z

Bill, what kind of people do you think overnight for 600 to 2.5k a night?

Bill.in.PA · 2021-08-14T20:17:54.702Z

Summer workers share a room or pitch a tent.

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WuWei · 2021-08-14T20:55:36.012Z

tzu:

Been to the Vineyard?

They weren’t from “the Vineyard” tzu.

Camp · 2021-08-14T21:06:31.382Z

Could not let rain or insects ruin the fun.

Hexenbiest · 2021-08-14T21:29:11.930Z

Ya right the media will be all over it, the party goers should have just held a BLM protest at the same time and they would have been immune to the virus.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2021-08-14T21:37:49.966Z

WuWei:

They weren’t from “the Vineyard” tzu.

Who?

The people at Obama’s party, or the people who got sick?

WuWei · 2021-08-14T21:38:23.223Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

WuWei:

They weren’t from “the Vineyard” tzu.

Who?

The people at Obama’s party, or the people who got sick?

The people at the party.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2021-08-14T21:38:26.932Z

RTchoke:

Because they report every single anti-vaxx death with glee that’s turned around and posted here. Sturgis was made an example of.

Now it’s ‘why do we need to know this stuff’?

What do you think this story is about?

TheDoctorIsIn · 2021-08-14T21:40:15.351Z

WuWei:

The people at the party.

Yes, they weren’t from the Vineyard.

So?

WuWei · 2021-08-14T21:41:27.404Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

WuWei:

The people at the party.

Yes, they weren’t from the Vineyard.

So?

They mingled with the Vine people. Then each other.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2021-08-14T21:42:26.509Z

WuWei:

They mingled with the Vine people. Then each other.

And…?

WuWei · 2021-08-14T21:43:04.408Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

WuWei:

They mingled with the Vine people. Then each other.

And…?

And potential superspreader. To feed his ego.